The Good and the Bad News for Trump from Last Night

 

A Democrat-controlled House will prove to be a headache for the Trump administration, as David French explained last night on Twitter:

As returns were still coming in, House Democrats began leaking to reporters that their first plan of attack would be to subpoena President Trump’s tax returns. The House Democrats elected are of a more radical class, and these aren’t folks who will step easily into the fray; they’re jumping in with both feet. And that can work to President Trump’s advantage.

President Trump operates best when he’s on the defensive and playing victim. Under constant siege from House Democrats, especially if their investigations are overreach, President Trump will have ready-made talking points for 2020 about being the subject of a witchhunt by Democrats stymying his efforts to Make America Great Again.

In a strange twist of fate, the Democrats winning the House could seal President Trump’s reelection campaign if House Democrats overplay their hand, which, as we saw in the Senate with now Justice Kavanaugh, is standard in the Trump-era.

But Ben Shapiro has some bad news for the Trump reelection campaign:

If the reelection took place last night, the Rust Belt may not have delivered for Trump in the same way it did in 2016.

With the end of the 2018 midterms, the 2020 campaign has begun. A great deal depends on how extreme a candidate Democrats put forward, but the tea leaves regarding Trump’s reelection campaign are just as murky this morning as they were last night.

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  1. RufusRJones Member
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    Bethany Mandel: As returns were still coming in, House Democrats began leaking to reporters that their first plan of attack would be to subpoena President Trump’s tax returns.

    Is this where they find the leverage that Russia has over Trump? Emoluments? What are they looking for? What is the rationale? 

     

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  2. Arizona Patriot Member
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    I suspect that the President will simply ignore the subpoena(s).  What are they going to do?  Eric Holder set the precedent for this.

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  3. Old Bathos Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Bethany Mandel: As returns were still coming in, House Democrats began leaking to reporters that their first plan of attack would be to subpoena President Trump’s tax returns.

    Is this where they find the leverage that Russia has over Trump? Emoluments? What are they looking for? What is the rationale?

    Rationale is whatever hurts, whatever leak can produced a headline, a staff resignation, the perception of scandal.  Teacher’s unions will provide the script to go after DeVos, disgruntled EPA staff will provide ammo to go after whoever Trump appoints.  Zinke at Interior might as well resign now.

    Adam Schiff has probably already drafted a report that says that while there may be no evidence of Russian collusion, Trump interfered with or did not expedite the gathering of evidence (which may or may not exist) and thus is guilty of obstruction.  Look for Schiff to go after Trump family members using the Henry Waxman Perjury Trap strategy.  Perfected by the odious California Congressman in the 1980s, the strategy is to ask the same question in different ways sprinkled throughout a long rambling interrogation.  If the answers are not identical, pick the outlier and make a perjury referral.  Look for Schiff to go after Trump’s sons and son-in-law.

    DC lawyers who specialize in the gray area where congressional interest and federal enforcement overlap and who advise targets of congressional probes are in for a banner year.

     

     

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  4. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Tax returns?? Tax returns???! That’s what they’ve got? They think Donald Trump is Al Capone? I’d laugh if it wasn’t so pathetic.

    The man’s been audited for 15(?) years running? They’re just going to make shtuff up about this, right? Everyone knows that.

    The difference between DJT and Democrats is he was rich before he took elective office. How about we subpoena their tax returns and find out where all the money came from? Oh, and, let’s start with the Clinton Foundation inputs/outputs.

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  5. RufusRJones Member
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    Thanks for the great answer Old Bathos. 

    The purpose of our lives is to seize the government so we can steal from each other and push each other around. Discuss. 

    Government Is How We Steal From Each Other™

    “Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.” – H. L. Mencken

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  6. RyanFalcone Member
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    The wavering of Mi, Wi and PA is tough to swallow. I still can’t fathom what is happening here in PA. Trump has been very good for this state while our Dem politicians have kept us from gaining as much traction in this economic upturn as other states. The result? Resounding wins for the Dems. Unbelievable. 

    Don’t forget Fla which has been on the razors edge and now has 1.4 million ex-cons lining up to register to vote.

    Resigning ourselves to a 2-year stalemate while a biased media hammers away at us will not work.

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  7. RufusRJones Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Tax returns?? Tax returns???! That’s what they’ve got? They think Donald Trump is Al Capone? I’d laugh if it wasn’t so pathetic.

    The man’s been audited for 15(?) years running? They’re just going to make shtuff up about this, right? Everyone knows that.

    The difference between DJT and Democrats is, he was rich before he took elective office. How about we subpoena their tax returns and find out where all the money came from? Oh, and, let’s start with the Clinton Foundation inputs/outputs.

    That’s what I think. I just don’t get what smart, reasonable people like Gary see, that I don’t. 

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  8. Valiuth Member
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    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):

    I suspect that the President will simply ignore the subpoena(s). What are they going to do? Eric Holder set the precedent for this.

    They will impeach him! And the national spectacle goes to… 24? (we blew past 11 long ago).

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  9. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Trump can’t do everything for everyone.  His endless energy stumping across the country was amazing to watch.  Those that lost in the local races and Congressional seats will have to work harder on their own to regain those territories.  I’m curious how much was turned by the Snowflakes and Millennials, i.e. the Bernie voters.  I suspect more socialistic ideas will pour out over the next two years, and unless we better educate, the results could have a longer negative effect than last night produced.  

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    I want them to impeach Kavanaugh. 

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  11. Jeff Petraska Member
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    Michigan voters love career Democratic politicians, so it was no surprise here that Debbie Stabenow won re-election.  Remember, we are the state that has sent Dingell family members to congress for almost 100 years straight, re-elected both Carl and Sander Levin for decades, and who only got rid of John Conyers through his resignation.  It’s almost as if the voters here are on mental autopilot and vote purely on name recognition.  

    Overall the Republican Party did poorly in Michigan, or at least in SE Michigan.  I didn’t think the candidates were particularly impressive this year, and it showed.  We also voted to legalize marijuana, establish an independent commission to determine congressional districts and end gerrymandering, and to enact automatic voter registration.  Sigh.

     

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  12. Stad Coolidge
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I’m curious how much was turned by the Snowflakes and Millennials, i.e. the Bernie voters.

    I wonder how many seats flipped because incumbent Republicans decided to call it quits . . .

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  13. RufusRJones Member
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    What is the final Democrat Count in the House? 220? They aren’t talking about how flexible this number is right now.

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  14. Western Chauvinist Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    What is the final Democrat Count in the House? 220? They aren’t talking about how flexible this number is right now.

    I’ve been wondering, too. Tight margin is good.

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  15. RufusRJones Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    What is the final Democrat Count in the House? 220? They aren’t talking about how flexible this number is right now.

    I’ve been wondering, too. Tight margin is good.

    Supposedly the GOP survivors are more Trump-loyal and cohesive and Democrat progressives got killed. The change on the margin is going to be a big deal, I would think. 

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  16. Western Chauvinist Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    What is the final Democrat Count in the House? 220? They aren’t talking about how flexible this number is right now.

    I’ve been wondering, too. Tight margin is good.

    Supposedly the GOP survivors are more Trump-loyal and cohesive and Democrat progressives got killed. The change on the margin is going to be a big deal, I would think.

    That’s it. Supposedly the “moderate” Democrats flipped the House seats. If they want to keep them, they better not be Pelosi/Waters/Schiff crazy. 

    And Donald Trump is not going down without a fight. We can say that for sure. He’s already threatening reciprocal investigations. Tit for tat. Good.

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  17. Patrick McClure Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I’m curious how much was turned by the Snowflakes and Millennials, i.e. the Bernie voters.

    I wonder how many seats flipped because incumbent Republicans decided to call it quits . . .

    Too many, I’m sure.  That’s what really pi… uh, ticked me off.  When so many Republican reps decided to call it quits. 

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  18. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I’m curious how much was turned by the Snowflakes and Millennials, i.e. the Bernie voters.

    I wonder how many seats flipped because incumbent Republicans decided to call it quits . . .

    Too many, I’m sure. That’s what really pi… uh, ticked me off. When so many Republican reps decided to call it quits.

    Yeah, weaklings and cowards. Not up for the fight. When we needed them, they ran away. Bastards.

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  19. RufusRJones Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I’m curious how much was turned by the Snowflakes and Millennials, i.e. the Bernie voters.

    I wonder how many seats flipped because incumbent Republicans decided to call it quits . . .

    Too many, I’m sure. That’s what really pi… uh, ticked me off. When so many Republican reps decided to call it quits.

    Yeah, weaklings and cowards. Not up for the fight. When we needed them, they ran away. Bastards.

    I think I heard somewhere that they can make more money or get better gigs after their careers if they always play safe like this. I may be wrong.

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  20. Cal Lawton Inactive
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    How much did the Dems spend this go around…and all it got them was 220 seats?

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  21. RufusRJones Member
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    Cal Lawton (View Comment):

    How much did the Dems spend this go around…and all it got them was 220 seats?

    Plus the media. Glenn Beck’s first hour analysis was very interesting. 

    There are so many ways to analyze this stuff to shade it one way or the other.

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  22. Stad Coolidge
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    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I’m curious how much was turned by the Snowflakes and Millennials, i.e. the Bernie voters.

    I wonder how many seats flipped because incumbent Republicans decided to call it quits . . .

    Too many, I’m sure. That’s what really pi… uh, ticked me off. When so many Republican reps decided to call it quits.

    I wonder how many were Trump opponents.  Rush also implied most of them were committee chairmen who were going to rotate off their chairs, so they didn’t want to become ordinary representatives again.

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  23. Stad Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I’m curious how much was turned by the Snowflakes and Millennials, i.e. the Bernie voters.

    I wonder how many seats flipped because incumbent Republicans decided to call it quits . . .

    Too many, I’m sure. That’s what really pi… uh, ticked me off. When so many Republican reps decided to call it quits.

    Yeah, weaklings and cowards. Not up for the fight. When we needed them, they ran away. Bastards.

    I think I heard somewhere that they can make more money or get better gigs after their careers if they always play safe like this. I may be wrong.

    I heard that too.

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  24. Stad Coolidge
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    Well, I’m going to make some comfort food tonight (chicken fajitas, cultural appropriation!), kick back, and do more DVD binge-watching.  The Earth is still turning . . .

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  25. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    Bad news all around. Trump got 8% of the black vote in 2016, and Republicans only managed to add another couple of percent this time.

    The Florida felon enfranchisement is only the beginning; similar initiatives are on the way nation wide.

    With Democrats back in control of the House, look for tight integration between House committees and the Resistance in every Federal agency. Also look for massive non-citizen voting.

    Project Veritas demonstrated that that was out in force in Texas:

    Two years of caravans aided and abetted by House Democrats will make that worse. If blacks might be leaving the plantation, even a few of them, that will have to be offset by illegal voting.

    Monica Showalter puts it in perspective:

    …the left’s claims that DACA voters wouldn’t dream of voting is runs head on against lefty claims that DACA recipients have rights, and the fact that they can’t vote is “injustice” by those wicked, wicked, citizen Americans. The Catholic Church seems to be egging this kind of attitude on – check out this article – which has DACA recipients portraying themselves as pitiful because they can’t vote in our elections and encouraging others to do it for them. They’re also claiming that their “lives” are at stake if they get deported, as if getting sent back to live in their Catholic home countries, which are democracies, is somehow a death sentence, or that God is less around if they have less gringo stuff. With that kind of attitude prevailing, why wouldn’t a few DACA recipients decide to cast a few ballots illegally here in the states since it’s all about “justice” as they’ve been told by an institution that claims to have God Himself on their side?

    It’s possible the poll workers didn’t know what they were talking about as they encouraged illegal voting, maybe unwittingly. But DACA recipients are an entitled and ungrateful lot based on what we have seen so far, with powerful patrons, so it’s worth looking at whether some of them thought it just fine and dandy to cancel out some Texas citizen voters’ ballots through their own illegal votes.

    Austin officials say they are looking into prosecuting the O’Keefe officials for illegally recording near a polling place, as if something like this could ever be exposed any other way, or as if fraud voting claims were hardly a matter of concern to them, which they are not. Hope they go for it, given their record of success with Perry. But Abbott has the bigger issue in mind, and rightly so: the integrity of our elections….

    Stacy McCain notes that in

    Texas 23, where Democrats nominated a Filipino-American lesbian against Rep. Will Hurd, the only black member of the Texas Republican delegation. It appears Hurd survived that challenge by a margin of 700 votes.

    Emphasis added.

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  26. Front Seat Cat Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I want them to impeach Kavanaugh.

    Why?

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  27. WI Con Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I’m curious how much was turned by the Snowflakes and Millennials, i.e. the Bernie voters.

    I wonder how many seats flipped because incumbent Republicans decided to call it quits . . .

    Too many, I’m sure. That’s what really pi… uh, ticked me off. When so many Republican reps decided to call it quits.

    I wonder how many were Trump opponents. Rush also implied most of them were committee chairmen who were going to rotate off their chairs, so they didn’t want to become ordinary representatives again.

    Which makes it even more inexcusable and points to the House & Senate GOP Leadership needed new blood. I’ll give McConnel credit for the judicial appointments but really –  and to both for getting the Tax Reform done but there was a whole lot of non-accomplishment in both bodies as well. They faced headwinds, faced the un-hinged Left but did they really ‘deserve’ re-election? Those Ryan Budgets have been embarrassing.

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  28. James Gawron Inactive
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    Bethany,

    Charlie Cooke just gave me some good news. It’s local to Florida but I live there so I like it.

    Florida, Man

    I suspect that few in the national press have yet grasped the scale of what happened in Florida last night. This midterm was a disaster for the Florida Democratic party on every conceivable level — a disaster with which Democrats here will be contending for years. In addition to sending Rick Scott to the Senate and Ron DeSantis to the governor’s mansion, to electing the Republican in every other statewide race, and to ensuring that Republicans continue to control both chambers of the legislature, Floridians voted “Yes” on Amendment 5, which inserts into the state constitution a requirement that any increase in taxes or fees must be (a) presented in a standalone bill, and (b) approved by two-thirds of the legislature. Given that the state has no income tax — and, indeed, that it has the lowest overall tax burden of any of the heavily populated states — the combination of these results all but ensures that Florida will remain a low-tax, low-spending place for the foreseeable future.

    …To add insult to injury, DeSantis’s election guarantees radical change within the one institution in the state that had remained left-leaning: the state supreme court. At present, the court has a 4-3 “progressive” majority. On DeSantis’s first day in office, he will get to replace three of those four, thereby turning that into a 6-1 “conservative” majority.

    Thank you, Charlie. I feel much better now.

    Regards,

    Jim

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  29. Jeff Hawkins Inactive
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    RyanFalcone (View Comment):

    The wavering of Mi, Wi and PA is tough to swallow. I still can’t fathom what is happening here in PA. Trump has been very good for this state while our Dem politicians have kept us from gaining as much traction in this economic upturn as other states. The result? Resounding wins for the Dems. Unbelievable.

    Elections have consequences….unless Democrats lose…then they go to the courts to get the result they want.

    PA earned the right to redistrict, and the PA Supreme Court then made it more favorable the other way.  That’s what happened.

    Overall, people just don’t understand how government works and what it should do on the Federal level.  On the message board I moderate, I had someone celebrating that now the House could pass higher taxes, campaign finance reform and LGBT rights.  I said “yes, but it would be symbolic” and this went over their heads as to why they don’t get to make law now.

    We have people putting out “Senate popular vote” and “Senate gerrymandering” as real things.

     

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  30. RufusRJones Member
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I want them to impeach Kavanaugh.

    Why?

    Because it’s all so damn retarded. The whole thing is sickening. I guess I’m half joking. Ford et. al. are all liars and the media doesn’t care because they exist to promote statism.

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