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January 4, 2022
January 4, 2022Ricochet

The Road To Hell...

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The merry men of GLoP are back with their first show of 2022, and they have a lot to get off their chests, starting with the fact that all three of them are now certified COVID Heroes®. Also, some thoughts about Big Government and snow removal, theater troupes in TV, movies, and plays, Licorice Pizza (that's a movie, not a new snack food, and why Apple TV+'s new production of The Tragedy of Macbeth is like a classic Bugs Bunny cartoon.

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•John Podhoretz•Jonah Goldberg•Rob Long

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    Bishop Wash@BishopWash·4y
    Ricochet Audio Network (View Post):
    Also, some thoughts about Big Government and snow removal,

    This should be good. Is the road to hell I-95? Do the thoughts revolve around Governor Youngkin not doing his job, even though he isn't in the seat yet?

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    Eustace C. Scrubb@EustaceCScrubb·4y
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    Ricochet Audio Network (View Post):
    Also, some thoughts about Big Government and snow removal,

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    This should be good. Is the road to hell I-95? Do the thoughts revolve around Governor Youngkin not doing his job, even though he isn’t in the seat yet?

    I sure hope no one criticizes Gov. Ralph Northam. That would be mean.

  • Banned Member@Franco·4y

    My God, the level of criticism coming from these guys is unbelievable! Rob goes after Shakespeare for using the convention of a theater troupe in Hamlet (Rob seems to miss the point of the convention), along with David Milch, writer of Deadwood. Then Pippin, Godspell and anything that has some amateur theater troupe involved in the story (yes, even Hamlet) is deemed insufferable. It's difficult to pull off and can be done badly, but really? It sounds to me that Rob hates actors and thinks that makes him a full-blooded conservative. Actors are easy to make fun of, we know, but as a class, they don't deserve this level of contempt. It's actually very difficult to do well, or even half-well.

    I mean, Rob wrote jokes for a postman and a dumb bartender for a living! Cheers was a good sitcom. The sitcom evolved from Commedia Dell' Arte years of traveling theater troupes using stock characters before television and Hollywood existed. A case can be made that Cheers is just rehashed Commedia, as old as the 16th century.

    Jon and Jonah, to my knowledge, are just critics and haven't produced anything creative other than their own caricatures and delusions about Donald Trump supporters. Yeah, there's bad stuff out there, but the esoteria of ever-so-subtle sophisticated critique could use a little more humility for my taste.

    The thing they do produce, this podcast for example, isn't especially compelling either.

    In the beginning we are told for the ten thousandth time how liberals are stupid for thinking government solutions are the answer, after doing nothing whatsoever but supporting the GOP establishment that keeps the whole thing greased and operational.

    They hold the naive view, apparently, that elected representatives are posturing solely for their careers in politics and aren't playing the much more lucrative game of angling for lobbying jobs, pundit jobs on cable TV and board member jobs as payback for services rendered after being defeated (if they ever are) bat the polls.

    No one said a word about Jonah's mis-tweet. He's a political pundit for a living, he lives in the DC area, maybe even in Virginia, and he doesn't know who the governor is. My objection to this class of right-of-center pundit is they rely heavily on the MSM narrative and they don't even know it. They travel in certain circles and get their info from their associates, and can't seem to access or relate to the views of ordinary people, which is a very negative indicator of the quality of their advice.

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    Taras@Taras·4y

    Like a lot of a certain kind of conservative intellectuals, the guys understand about liberal control of media and social media in one part of their brains, but then in another part of their brains they talk about politics as if those liberal media don’t exist or have no influence.

    In other words, it doesn’t matter how objectively bad is the performance of the Democratic Party — if their voters never hear about it.

    A couple of weeks ago, I was having dinner with various people, and got in a political argument with a progressive couple sitting across from me. (I had a good time but I suspect they didn’t.) At one point I mentioned the disaster in Afghanistan. What disaster in Afghanistan, they wanted to know, honestly puzzled.

    I got the opportunity to explain to them about 16 million women being degraded, and tens of thousands of our allies being hunted down and killed — or, to stay alive, joining ISIS.

    But the point is, the media they believe in told them none of this. Depending on which story is useful to the cause at a particular moment, Afghanistan is old news, or a Biden triumph, or all Trump’s fault.

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    OwnedByDogs@JuliaBlaschke·4y

    I so agree about the theater troupe stuff. I started watching Station 11 but got so fed up with the stuff set 20 years into the future. The parts dealing with the onset of the plague were interesting, but watching a bunch of fools running around in dystopia and spouting Shakespeare was ridiculous. I kept thinking what are they eating? How do they survive the winters? I so don't care about any of these characters.

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