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Episode length: 43m
What does America look like through the eyes of someone who chose to become an American? Charles C. W. Cooke joins The Dave Carter Show for a conversation about his lifelong fascination with the United States—from childhood visits to Disney World and the American Southwest to the journey that culminated in his taking the oath of citizenship in 2018. Along the way, Charles reflects on what James Madison might make of the republic in 2026 and why the survival of both the country and its Constitution might surprise him more than some of today's political controversies.
The conversation turns to America's perpetual outrage cycle and the gulf between the controversies consuming political and media obsessives and the concerns of ordinary Americans. Charles argues for stepping away from the 24-hour torrent long enough to regain perspective, touching on everything from current arguments over men competing in women's sports to the remarkable expansion of federal power. And when offered an afternoon with any figure in history, his choice is Winston Churchill.
But the conversation ultimately becomes something more personal, centering on what Americans have inherited and what they owe those who will inherit it next. Asked what he would tell a room full of 18-year-old Americans, Charles describes them as beneficiaries of generations of Americans whose sacrifice and work have given them an extraordinary moment in which they have, “won the lottery of life.” Asked what he would tell his own grandchildren about what America was supposed to be, he points them back to the Declaration of Independence and the principles it proclaimed.
This is more than an interview. It's a conversation about citizenship, gratitude, inheritance—and the enduring question Ronald Reagan posed generations ago: If freedom fails here, where else do we go?
Hosted by Dave Carter, with guest CCCharles C.W. Cooke
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Same here. Months after WWI ended, my grandfather Andrew, a Scottish sailor (aye, he worked the engine room, fer hae else d'ya think he kpt 'is repytation as a mirracle w'rrkr?) jumped ship in New York. About a half dozen years later, he was deported but allowed to deport through Canada,
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What a delightful conversation! I admire both of you, and especially appreciated getting to know Charlie a little better! Thanks, Dave and Charlie!
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