A Fabulous Fourth

To kick off a great Fourth of July Weekend we’ll need firecrackers, but, of course, only with adult supervision. For the former, we’ve got John Yoo filling in for Rob and Charles C.W. Cooke as our first guest – for the latter, Mr. Bill McGurn.

To start, Peter and James get to pick Yoo’s brain on a few of the recent Supreme Court decisions along with Bill Cosby’s release. Then Charlie gives an ode to the only country on Earth that lets you move here and consider yourself a full member. Lastly, Bill fills us in on his saintly godson, Jimmy Lai, and his concerns for the future of Hong Kong. A podcast for all lovers of freedom and justice!

Music from this week’s show: Saturday in the Park by Chicago.

And we’re off next week, but we’ll see you again on the 16th. Happy Independence Day to all!

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  1. kedavis Member
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    Was there supposed to be some kind of title other than Ricochet Podcast #551 ?

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  2. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Cosby did not “get off on a technicality,” he did not “walk,” he was in prison for almost 3 years and is apparently now blind from glaucoma.

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  3. EJHill Podcaster
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    kedavis: Was there supposed to be some kind of title other than Ricochet Podcast #551 ?

    Whoops! Fixed. 

    This was an interesting production week. If you were with us during the recording session you might be aware that someone rammed their car into a telephone pole near Yeti’s home and took out power to his neighborhood. Luckily, yours truly always makes a backup recording. So there was a little WWE tag-teaming in post. 

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  4. kedavis Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    kedavis: Was there supposed to be some kind of title other than Ricochet Podcast #551 ?

    Whoops! Fixed.

    This was an interesting production week. If you were with us during the recording session you might be aware that someone rammed their car into a telephone pole near Yeti’s home and took out power to his neighborhood. Luckily, yours truly always makes a backup recording. So there was a little WWE tag-teaming in post.

    I’ve often marveled that people who produce other podcasts and sometimes even live radio shows, can get screwed up by a power outage or other technical issue because they don’t even have a backup recording system.  Let alone not have backup power, which is even more inexplicable.  Good to know you’re better than that, but guys in your positions should have UPSes too.  I’ve been using them for about 20 years now, wouldn’t be without them.  And I mean GOOD ones, not the cheap junk you can get at Walmart or something.  The one I just got for my main computer setup (in a 24u rack cabinet) to replace one that had worn out, normally costs about $1300 but I got a “new old stock” unit with fresh batteries, for $650.  (This model, except mine was new-in-box and came from a US seller:  https://www.ebay.com/itm/163281864099 )  I run my main computer setup from 240v so I don’t have to deal with “load balancing” across more than one outlet to avoid popping a circuit breaker.  Most computer stuff these days is auto-voltage, anywhere from 100v (Japan) up to 240v (most of Europe etc, and in the US for circuits that power kitchen stoves, water heaters, A/C units…) so it’s not difficult.

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  5. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    kedavis: Was there supposed to be some kind of title other than Ricochet Podcast #551 ?

    Whoops! Fixed.

    This was an interesting production week. If you were with us during the recording session you might be aware that someone rammed their car into a telephone pole near Yeti’s home and took out power to his neighborhood. Luckily, yours truly always makes a backup recording. So there was a little WWE tag-teaming in post.I’ve often marveled that people who produce other podcasts and sometimes even live radio shows, can get screwed up by a power outage or other technical issue because they don’t even have a backup recording system. Let alone not have backup power, which is even more inexplicable. Good to know you’re better than that, but guys in your positions should have UPSes too. I’ve been using them for about 20 years now, wouldn’t be without them. And I mean GOOD ones, not the cheap junk you can get at Walmart or something. The one I just got for my main computer setup (in a 24u rack cabinet) to replace one that had worn out, normally costs about $1300 but I got a “new old stock” unit with fresh batteries, for $650. (This model, except mine was new-in-box and came from a US seller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/163281864099 ) I run my main computer setup from 240v so I don’t have to deal with “load balancing” across more than one outlet to avoid popping a circuit breaker. Most computer stuff these days is auto-voltage, anywhere from 100v (Japan) up to 240v (most of Europe etc, and in the US for circuits that power kitchen stoves, water heaters, A/C units…) so it’s not difficult.

    My backup recording system worked flawlessly, thank you very much.  We had a complete recording of the show recorded in the cloud (we record the show in the cloud AND locally) and we always have two people in different locations recording the show. Furthermore,  I was able to re-connect to the show by tethering my laptop to my phone about 2 minutes after the power went out.

    For the record, I have a UPS system (and yes, it’s a good one) but it did not matter in this situation as the car that hit the pole that took out the power took out the internet as well. Both were back up in about 35-40 minutes.

    I’ve often marvel at people who offer opinions on situations in which they have ZERO facts at hand and don’t bother to ask questions before they mouth off with their ill informed “solutions.”

     

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  6. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Ricochet Audio Network: A Fabulous Fourth

    A rather ambiguous use of the adjective.

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  7. Basil Fawlty Member
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    @BasilFawlty

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    I’ve often marvel at people who offer opinions on situations in which they have ZERO facts at hand and don’t bother to ask questions before they mouth off with their ill informed “solutions.”

    Jon?

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  8. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    I’ve often marvel at people who offer opinions on situations in which they have ZERO facts at hand and don’t bother to ask questions before they mouth off with their ill informed “solutions.”

    Jon?

    I would respectfully suggest you watch this (all 40 minutes) and then ponder if that claim holds up or not. 

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  9. kedavis Member
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    All those unarmed people were such a threat…

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  10. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    All those unarmed people were such a threat…

    Such a brave statement from someone who was thousands of miles away at the time. And exactly how did anyone in that moment know they were unarmed?

    P.S. If you actually watch the video instead of (again!) making ill-informed statements, you’ll see that several of them had weapons, including a few that were lifted from law enforcement.

    I also distinctly remember you hectoring me at the time how this was absolutely an Anifa and/or BLM operation.  Still stand by that statement?

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  11. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    All those unarmed people were such a threat…

    Such a brave statement from someone who was thousands of miles away at the time. And exactly how did anyone in that moment know they were unarmed?

     

    Vas you dere, Yeti?

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  12. kedavis Member
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    All those unarmed people were such a threat…

    Such a brave statement from someone who was thousands of miles away at the time. And exactly how did anyone in that moment know they were unarmed?

     

    Vas you dere, Yeti?

    Since he’s not currently in jail, I’m guessing not.

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  13. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    All those unarmed people were such a threat…

    Such a brave statement from someone who was thousands of miles away at the time. And exactly how did anyone in that moment know they were unarmed?

     

    Vas you dere, Yeti?

    I was not, which is why I watched the video (and several other ones). 

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  14. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    All those unarmed people were such a threat…

    Such a brave statement from someone who was thousands of miles away at the time. And exactly how did anyone in that moment know they were unarmed?

     

    Vas you dere, Yeti?

    I was not, which is why I watched the video (and several other ones).

    I guess that’s OK, but please don’t dismiss the views of others because they weren’t there at the Capitol. How far from the Capitol were you when you watched the NYT video? And do you believe the NYT is an honest news organization?

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  15. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    All those unarmed people were such a threat…

    Such a brave statement from someone who was thousands of miles away at the time. And exactly how did anyone in that moment know they were unarmed?

     

    Vas you dere, Yeti?

    I was not, which is why I watched the video (and several other ones).

    I guess that’s OK, but please don’t dismiss the views of others because they weren’t there at the Capitol. How far from the Capitol were you when you watched the NYT video? And do you believe the NYT is an honest news organization?

    My point was that there was no way to know at the time whether those people were armed or not. And in retrospect, it turned out several of them were in fact carrying various weapons.

    As for the NYT video, the reason I think it’s credible is because it exclusively uses video shot by the people conducting this event. It’s their video, not video shot by NYT or CNN, or anyone else. This is the video they wanted us to see. Which is why everyone should watch it and draw their own conclusions. To dismiss it out of hand because you don’t like who is distributing is head-in-the-sand thinking. In my opinion.

    I do not wish to hijack this thread any longer. I was initially responding to an completely uninformed and false comment and got drawn into this. That’s on me and I regret it.

    I’m happy to debate this topic elsewhere, but not here.

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  16. kedavis Member
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    To paraphrase Stalin, “It doesn’t matter who shoots the video.  What matters is who edits the video.”

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  17. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Yeti on record as being OK with unarmed women being gunned down by government agents never even investigated. 

    Classy! 

    If there were an above board investigation maybe you would have a point Scott. But you don’t. Instead you support thr NYT.

    This post shows where Ricochet really is, 100%.

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  18. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Which is why everyone should watch it and draw their own conclusions. To dismiss it out of hand because you don’t like who is distributing is head-in-the-sand thinking. In my opinion.

    Distributing? It’s edited and narrated as a propaganda piece by the NYT. To have it recommended as objective analysis to Ricochet readers is disappointing.

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  19. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Which is why everyone should watch it and draw their own conclusions. To dismiss it out of hand because you don’t like who is distributing is head-in-the-sand thinking. In my opinion.

    Distributing? It’s edited and narrated as a propaganda piece by the NYT. To have it recommended as objective analysis to Ricochet readers is disappointing.

    Now now, it is the Paper of Record. No reason for conservative doubt. 

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  20. Blue Yeti Admin
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    To paraphrase Stalin, “It doesn’t matter who shoots the video. What matters is who edits the video.”

    Watch the video (what are you afraid of, anyhow? It’s not armed…) and then you can make pithy comments quoting a mass killer, Comrade.  Until then, your credibility is about where it was when you criticized me for not making a backup recording or not having a UPS.

     

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  21. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    Yeti on record as being OK with unarmed women being gunned down by government agents never even investigated.

    Classy!

    If there were an above board investigation maybe you would have a point Scott. But you don’t. Instead you support thr NYT.

    This post shows where Ricochet really is, 100%.

    I never said anything like that, Bryan. And you’re acting as if that’s the only thing that happened that day. By the way, the event you’re describing is depicted in the video in excruciating detail. It’s very tough to watch. Kinda blows away your propaganda argument.

    And for the 10,000 time with you: I don’t speak for Ricochet. It’s a platform. I speak for myself.  

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  22. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Which is why everyone should watch it and draw their own conclusions. To dismiss it out of hand because you don’t like who is distributing is head-in-the-sand thinking. In my opinion.

    Distributing? It’s edited and narrated as a propaganda piece by the NYT. To have it recommended as objective analysis to Ricochet readers is disappointing.

    I suggesting watching the video. Because it was made by the people involved in the event. I said nothing about the narration. Deliberately. P.S. the narration is pretty minimal anyway. Mostly identifying people and making note of the elapsed time. 

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  23. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Yeti on record as being OK with unarmed women being gunned down by government agents never even investigated.

    Classy!

    If there were an above board investigation maybe you would have a point Scott. But you don’t. Instead you support thr NYT.

    This post shows where Ricochet really is, 100%.

    I never said anything like that, Bryan. And you’re acting as if that’s the only thing that happened that day.

    And for the 10,000 time with you: I don’t speak for Ricochet. It’s a platform. I speak for myself.

    Garbage. A CEO is always speaking for the corporation. That is the facts of life. You have control. 

    As far as her getting shot, well, we don’t have all th facts, because, unlike other police shootings, the evidence is being hidden. 

    As far as everything that happened that day, Scott, remember they already lied to us about another death. We know for a fact they lied. What we were told was false. 

    So. What you want me to believe is that people who have already been caught in a lie are to be belived.

     

     

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  24. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    It is funny. The couple who defended their home with showing weapons were immediately prosecuted. 

    When a police shoots someone, it is public knowledge. The officer is put on administrative leave etc. A public process. 

    Here, Scott, you are OK with it being hidden. You are OK with it not being investigated at all. 

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  25. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Which is why everyone should watch it and draw their own conclusions. To dismiss it out of hand because you don’t like who is distributing is head-in-the-sand thinking. In my opinion.

    Distributing? It’s edited and narrated as a propaganda piece by the NYT. To have it recommended as objective analysis to Ricochet readers is disappointing.

    I suggesting watching the video. Because it was made by the people involved in the event. I said nothing about the narration. Deliberately. P.S. the narration is pretty minimal anyway. Mostly identifying people and making note of the elapsed time.

    This is like saying Leni Riefenstahl simply distributed old newsreels and added a little context.

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  26. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Yeti on record as being OK with unarmed women being gunned down by government agents never even investigated.

    Classy!

    If there were an above board investigation maybe you would have a point Scott. But you don’t. Instead you support thr NYT.

    This post shows where Ricochet really is, 100%.

    I never said anything like that, Bryan. And you’re acting as if that’s the only thing that happened that day.

    And for the 10,000 time with you: I don’t speak for Ricochet. It’s a platform. I speak for myself.

    Garbage. A CEO is always speaking for the corporation. That is the facts of life. You have control.

    As far as her getting shot, well, we don’t have all th facts, because, unlike other police shootings, the evidence is being hidden.

    As far as everything that happened that day, Scott, remember they already lied to us about another death. We know for a fact they lied. What we were told was false.

    So. What you want me to believe is that people who have already been caught in a lie are to be belived.

    Maybe that’s the way you run your company, it’s not the way we’ve ever run this one. We have lots of people with lots of opinions. I’m just one of them.  My title is meaningless in this context.  

    Believe what you want and dismiss whatever evidence you think isn’t credible. Makes no difference to me. I’m not trying to persuade you of anything.  Just suggesting you expose yourself to a broader range of media that may —God forbid— challenge your world view   

     

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  27. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Yeti on record as being OK with unarmed women being gunned down by government agents never even investigated.

    Classy!

    If there were an above board investigation maybe you would have a point Scott. But you don’t. Instead you support thr NYT.

    This post shows where Ricochet really is, 100%.

    I never said anything like that, Bryan. And you’re acting as if that’s the only thing that happened that day.

    And for the 10,000 time with you: I don’t speak for Ricochet. It’s a platform. I speak for myself.

    Garbage. A CEO is always speaking for the corporation. That is the facts of life. You have control.

    As far as her getting shot, well, we don’t have all th facts, because, unlike other police shootings, the evidence is being hidden.

    As far as everything that happened that day, Scott, remember they already lied to us about another death. We know for a fact they lied. What we were told was false.

    So. What you want me to believe is that people who have already been caught in a lie are to be belived.

    Maybe that’s the way you run your company, it’s not the way we’ve ever run this one. We have lots of people with lots of opinions. I’m just one of them. My title is meaningless in this context.

    Believe what you want and dismiss whatever evidence you think isn’t credible. Makes no difference to me. I’m not trying to persuade you of anything. Just suggesting you expose yourself to a broader range of media that may —God forbid— challenge your world view

    That last bit is rich coming from you. 

    I am the one saying I’d like to see all the way evidence, and you are the one who had made up his mind.

     

     

     

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  28. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Basil Fawlty (View Comment):

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Which is why everyone should watch it and draw their own conclusions. To dismiss it out of hand because you don’t like who is distributing is head-in-the-sand thinking. In my opinion.

    Distributing? It’s edited and narrated as a propaganda piece by the NYT. To have it recommended as objective analysis to Ricochet readers is disappointing.

    I suggesting watching the video. Because it was made by the people involved in the event. I said nothing about the narration. Deliberately. P.S. the narration is pretty minimal anyway. Mostly identifying people and making note of the elapsed time.

    This is like saying Leni Riefenstahl simply distributed old newsreels and added a little context.

    No, it’s actually nothing like that. At all.  Which you know if you’d watch it. 

    This has been an interesting and enlightening  conversation, but I have other obligations to attend to. Have a nice weekend, everyone! 

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  29. James Lileks Contributor
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    Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the podcast?

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  30. JennaStocker Member
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    In the spirit of 1776, I’d just like to add my two cents, which is quickly falling in value thanks to the inflation the White House is trying to convince me doesn’t not exist…but I appreciate the hosts and those behind the scenes who do this every week. Most episodes are followed up with feedback in the comments from hosts or even guests. I always learn something and never feel condescension nor inferior (although my frequent naïveté is coupled with just being dumb about a lot of subjects). But this site is first and foremost to me a myriad of voices and opinions that weave together an incredible cross section of backgrounds, experiences, knowledge, and understanding – a testament that despite our differences we can still choose to travel towards a common American cause: to improve our lives and work for those Founding ideals for future generations. Hey, if sworn enemies Jefferson and Adams could end up gracious and hospitable fraternal-patriots, with lasting and near-mythic joint deaths, I think we can do so here. Happy Independence Day!

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