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What We Were Told Couldn’t Happen — Never Happens — Happened. Voter Fraud NJ Style.

Ekosj
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New Jersey Governor Mikie Sherrill admitted yesterday that over 6,000 non-citizens were erroneously registered to vote by the state's Motor Vehicle Division as part of the Clinton-era "Motor-Voter" process. It seems that even though these individuals ticked the box indicating that they were non-citizens and ineligible to vote, they were registered to vote anyway. A software error, we are informed. Hokum. At best it's a coding error ... followed up by a failure to detect the coding error in testing. Those are people errors. If they are indeed bugs and not features. About 400 of these ineligible folks went on to actually cast ballots in subsequent elections. We were told time and time and time again that this kind of thing couldn't happen ... didn't ever happen. Anybody suggesting something like this was a tin-foil hatter. Looks like that was not the case. It happened.

What we aren't told — what they'll never tell us — is just how many times the ineligible individual DOESN'T tick the box declaring themselves to be ineligible and purposely elects to be registered to vote. Motor-Voter is all done on the honor system. There is no validation process to ensure that the person being registered to vote is in fact eligible. If they say they are eligible, that's good enough.

Couple this with another voter fraud story that didn't make the national news ...

Former mayoral candidate for Plainfield, NJ (a town just down the road from me) was caught at the post office with garbage bags filled with 1000 fake voter registration forms. Apparently, the plan was to follow up these fake registrations with fake ballots in the upcoming primary. He lost, garnering only 2% of the votes. (Who wants to bet that a supporter of his opponent works at the post office and turned him in?) But the fact that this seemed like a good idea gives you a flavor of just what elections are like here. I'd hazard a guess that rather than being impossible and never occurring, fraud is endemic in Jersey. And likely everywhere else as well.

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  • EJHill@EJHill

    Ekosj: A software error, we are informed. Hokum. At best it’s a coding error … followed up by a failure to detect the coding error in testing.

    It's also a sideshow on the SAVE Act debate. One, because the error happened at the Motor Vehicles Commission these people did and do have legal state IDs. So there's nothing in that process of having a state ID that stopped the roughly 400 people from casting a vote. Two, the 400 represent 6% of the 6,600 where the error was found. That means 94% of the people who understood they were ineligible to vote because of their citizenship status chose to follow the law. (For comparison's sake about 8% of the US adult population has a felony conviction on their record.)

  • Nohaaj@Nohaaj
    Ekosj (View Post):

    What we aren’t told … what they’ll never tell us … is just how many times the ineligible individual DOESN’T tick the box declaring themselves to be ineligible and purposely elects to be registered to vote. Motor-Voter is all done on the honor system. There is no validation process to ensure that the person being registered to vote IS in fact eligible

    Wow.

    But the talking heads will simply tout the 6000 and 400 #'s in the data and say "what does it matter?"

    "insignificant"

    They forget their typical argument for overreach... "If it can save a single life..."

  • Tex929rr@Tex929rr

    So now we have gone from “it never happens “ to “it rarely happens”.

    When we will get to “it doesn’t really matter”? (Followed by “it’s really a good thing”.)

  • Columbo@Columbo
    ReplyingtoEJHill

    Ekosj: A software error, we are informed. Hokum. At best it’s a coding error … followed up by a failure to detect the coding error in testing.

    EJHill (View Comment):

    It’s also a sideshow on the SAVE Act debate. One, because the error happened at the Motor Vehicles Commission these people did and do have legal state IDs. So there’s nothing in that process of having a state ID that stopped the roughly 400 people from casting a vote. Two, the 400 represent 6% of the 6,600 where the error was found. That means 94% of the people who understood they were ineligible to vote because of their citizenship status chose to follow the law. (For comparison’s sake about 8% of the US adult population has a felony conviction on their record.)

    No callenge to the 400 number? Is there anything said by the Left that you don't believe hook, line and sinker?

  • GPentelie@GPentelie

    For general perspective purposes, ...

    In 2024, there were 13 U.S. House elections that were decided by fewer than 6,500 votes:

    California 13th: 187 votes — Dem gain

    California 45th: 596 votes — Dem gain

    Iowa 1st: 798 votes — Rep hold

    Ohio 9th: 2,382 votes — Dem hold

    Colorado 8th: 2,449 votes — Rep gain

    Maine 2nd: 2,706 votes — Dem hold

    Florida 9th: 3,593 votes — Dem hold.

    Pennsylvania 7th: 4,062 votes — Rep gain

    Pennsylvania 10th: 5,133 votes — Rep hold

    Texas 34th: 5,137 votes — Dem hold

    Nebraska 2nd: 5,829 votes — Rep hold

    Pennsylvania 8th: 6,252 votes — Rep gain

    North Carolina 1st: 6,307 votes — Dem hold

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