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September 24, 2024 at 6:02 PM

How Can Suicide Be So Attractive?

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It does not take a genius to unearth the deep, dark secrets of happy people everywhere: get married (and invest in your spouse). Have children. Make G-d part of your life. Build healthy and productive relationships in your family, your marriage, your community and your faith. See your existence as part of something greater than just your own life. Try to see things positively.

But of course, people increasingly do not do these things. Relationships are shallow and selfish, with hedonism the order of the day. Marriage is on the wane. Investing in children?! Outside of Israel, no first-world country is even having children at a replacement rate. Judeo-Christianity is in such full-scale retreat that in some countries, a person who dares to quote the Bible risks prosecution for hate speech. People are not investing in themselves or, for that matter, anyone else. They wallow and revel in misery and quiet desperation, trumpeting euthanasia as the easiest way to end their suffering. At the cutting edge, people castrate themselves. Mind-boggling.

We are witnessing personal and societal self-immolation. This not only runs counter to the assertion that people seek happiness (they clearly do not), but it also seems to run counter to any understanding of seeking our rational self-interest.

If I did not know better, I would say that the world is suffering under a series of curses.

Which may be what is really happening. After all, the Torah is full of curses that will happen to those who turn their back on G-d. At the core of those curses is civilizational decline, and a profound loss of hope and optimism. I think we all may be witnessing those Biblical curses in real time.

The curses may (or may not) be clearly attributable to divine wrath, but the net result of people living against the basic principles of the Torah is that they, individually and collectively, end up, in the words of the prophet Hosea, reaping the whirlwind.

In the long run, societies and civilizations suffer from the curses, and benefit from the blessings. Societies that lose their purpose are doomed. And that is a biblical curse. If you fail to find meaning (whether as an individual, a family, a community, or a nation), then you become an ideological and genetic dead end.

G-d may or may not be the Prime Mover behind the slow-motion disaster all around us. But either way, I have no doubt that people are its executors. We are, in fact, doing the damage to ourselves, personally, societally and even internationally. We do it through an instinctive belief in validating our short-term feelings and intense narcissism. We do it by insisting that we are not responsible for anything: Mother Nature or karma, genetics or accidents of birth, white privilege or racism. Each renders us powerless victims.

But we, at least those who can see clearly, are G-d’s partners — his agents. The job of saving the world falls to us.

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    Nohaaj@Nohaaj·2y
    iWe (View Post):
    Which not only runs counter to the assertion that people seek happiness (they clearly do not),

    I theorize that all people seek happiness... But, many seek it in the wrong way. They pursue the next hot commercial product (ie newest phone, car,etc) thinking they will be happy when they attain it, or the next promotion at work, or weight loss, or vacation, or sex or sex change, drugs, but all these things are superficial and whatever "joy" they may experience is fleeting and shallow. They become addicted to attaining the next hit or thing. This leads to perpetual frustration, disappointment and perhaps even depression.

    iWe (View Post):
    Societies that lose their purpose are doomed. And that is a biblical curse. If you fail to find meaning (whether as an individual, a family, a community, or a nation), then you become an ideological and genetic dead end.

    Certainly the axiom of this is that those who find meaning and purpose in G-d, then they will feel fulfilled, happy, and at peace.

    iWe (View Post):

    The job of saving the world falls to us.

    I am not sure we can save the world. I believe we might save ourselves, and maybe drag a fellow observer along with us.

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    RufusRJones@RufusRJones·2y

    Watch this three times and get back to me. lol

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    Misthiocracy has never@Misthiocracy·2y

    Without God, the question is not "what makes suicide so attractive" but rather "give me good reason not to kill myself."

    That was basically the leitmotif of Albert Camus' writing.

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    Percival@Percival·2y
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    Misthiocracy has never (View Comment):

    Without God, the question is not “what makes suicide so attractive” but rather “give me good reason not to kill myself.”

    That was basically the leitmotif of Albert Camus’ writing.

    https://bigthink.com/personal-growth/the-meaning-of-life-albert-camus-on-faith-suicide-and-absurdity/

    That's a toughie, considering all he had to look forward to was being Albert Camus.

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    FrankTorson@FrankTorson·2y
    iWe (View Post):

    It does not take a genius to unearth the deep, dark secrets of happy people everywhere: get married (and invest in your spouse). Have children. Make G-d part of your life.

    When you say 'make G-d part of your life,' are you referring to a specific kind of G-d? You probably don't mean Zalmoxis, who was worshipped by people of the lower Danube and mentioned by Herodotus. Will any of the g-ds that people have worshipped throughout history suffice? Of are you advocating that people find the one, true G-d? Can someone gain something by worshipping a false G-d?

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