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April 30, 2024 at 4:15 PM

Quote of the Day: Credentials

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Benjamin Franklin’s formal education ended when he was 10 years old. There were no economics departments or doctorates anywhere in the world when Alexander Hamilton, who was unable to complete his undergraduate studies at the then-Kings College of New York (now Columbia), designed the first central bank of the United States. None of the Founding Fathers were as well credentialed or thoroughly vetted as utterly mediocre, run-of-the-mill lawyers and political scientists are today. Armed only with his genius and his scanty formal educational credentials, a young John Marshall could not land an interview, much less a job, with a major American law firm today. Neither Ulysses Grant nor Robert Lee held a doctorate or had any formal professional training after graduating from West Point. Their lack of credentials would ensure that neither, today, would be considered for senior command in any branch of the armed forces. Through most of the 19th century, American colleges and even elite universities did not require doctoral degrees of their faculty. Today, however, a person with George Washington’s educational credentials could not get a job teaching the third grade in any public school in the United States. Walter Russell Mead, https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/twilight-wonks-walter-russell-mead

In our over-credentialed culture, there is a growing danger of squelching true innovation while promoting timid mediocrity. Someone like Elon Musk is rare these days. When I read novels set in the first half of the twentieth century (Dashiell Hammett, Raymond Chandler, et al.), I'm struck by how common it was for a character to have a chemical or mechanical engineering lab in his house. Could a Thomas Edison even exist today? His home-based research facilities would probably violate his homeowners' association's regulations!

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    Miffed White Male@MiffedWhiteMale·2y
    Fractad (View Post):
    Neither Ulysses Grant nor Robert Lee held a doctorate or had any formal professional training after graduating from West Point. Their lack of credentials would ensure that neither, today, would be considered for senior command in any branch of the armed forces.

    Not to take away from your larger point, but they did graduate from West Point...

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    Fractad@TWert·2y
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    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Not to take away from your larger point, but they did graduate from West Point…

    Yes, I noticed that too. Mead's entire essay I linked to is well worth reading.

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    Old Bathos@OldBathos·2y

    Credentials are only a problem when they are given in lieu of education.

    A world of gratuitous credential requirements is like some obnoxious little girl's fantasy world--teacher's pet gets to run the school and then the world.

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    JoelB@JoelB·2y

    Homeschoolers have long discussed the amount of time wasted in public (and perhaps private) schools. When one is well-armed with the concepts, how many repetitions and by-ways must be pursued?

    We had a couple of friends we have since lost contact with who had a daughter who wanted to go into medicine and become a doctor. Both parents were from foreign countries. The mother had been a practicing physician in Mexico. The father was a corporate executive for a large Austrian firm. There was some debate in the family over which course the daughter should take. If she went to Europe, she could go directly into medical school and do without the four years of undergraduate work required in the USA. I don't know what the daughter finally decided upon, but I think I know the one I would have chosen. (The daughter was fluent in at least three languages and very bright. Money was probably not an object either.)

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    DaveSchmidt@DaveSchmidt·2y

    A high school grad in 1950 was better prepared for life than most folks with an MA from Columbia.

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