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October 16, 2023 at 10:00 PM

The Stupid Party, Part MMMCMXCIX

EJHill
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Since the rise of Donald Trump, one of my (probably annoying) pet peeves has been to decry the idiocy of the mainstream Republican Party for their inability or their refusal to admit that they were, are, and will continue to be the single largest factor in the hold that Trump has on the party.

Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR3) said this on CNN: “Nobody in America can get 217 (votes) right now out of the Republican conference. If that becomes apparent to everybody, then at some point in time, we're gonna have to work across the aisle.”

If your biggest problem is that the base believes you will betray them and sell them out at the earliest opportunity, how is proving them correct going to right the ship?

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    Bishop Wash@BishopWash·3y
    EJHill (View Post):
    IF your biggest problem is that the base believes you will betray them and sell them out at the earliest opportunity, how is proving them correct going to right the ship?

    I guess it depends on who a Congressman sees as his base. Is it the base of voters or the base of donors? Those two groups have competing goals.

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    Modus Ponens@ModusPonens·3y

    If a contingent of Republicans are so afraid of Conservatives that they'd rather elect a Democrat than Jim Jordan, it really speaks volumes about their true allegiances. It's Maverick McCain all over again.

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    BDB@BDB·3y

    Yup. The kindest interpretation is that they are myopic a concern-chasers, and just cannot see the forest for the trees.

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    Bob Thompson@BobThompson·3y
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    Modus Ponens (View Comment):

    If a contingent of Republicans are so afraid of Conservatives that they’d rather elect a Democrat than Jim Jordan, it really speaks volumes about their true allegiances. It’s Maverick McCain all over again.

    This is it in a nutshell. The greatest threat right now to the American republic is the Democrat Party, and Biden in the White House. If every Republican in the House and Senate cannot recognize this, we are close to doom. I always hold hope.

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    Postmodern Hoplite@PostmodernHoplite·3y

    I've heard discussion on several podcasts (for example,"The American Mind Podcast," from two weeks ago, October 6) to the effect that Kevin McCarthy traded the real estate of prime congressional offices for Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer (outgoing House Speaker and Majority Leader, respectively) in exchange for the promise that Democrats would support McCarthy if any Republican actually acted on his (McCarthy's) bold and brazen offer of a one-vote "motion to vacate". No doubt, McCarthy thought Hakeem Jeffries would be bound by whatever hand-shake deal was cut with Pelosi and Hoyer to protect McCarthy from his own party. Professional courtesy between members of Congress, right? For the "good of the country"?

    I don't know if this is true; but it has the "ring of truth." Also, it would certainly explain how McCarthy so completely lost control of his caucus well before the final roll call vote was taken.

    For a guy who supposedly spent his whole political career striving to reach the Speaker of the House, he sure chose his political allies poorly.

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