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November 20, 2023 at 3:30 PM

Quote of the Day: ‘These Honored Dead’

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So there I was, as I often am, chasing down some reference or other that has nothing to do with the point at hand, and I stumbled over the fact that it was only 160 years ago Sunday, on November 19, 1863 (what a very young country this still is), that a President of the United States of America stood to dedicate a battlefield and commemorate the recently slain in his country's Civil War, and said these words:

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle field of that war. We come to dedicate a portion of it, as a final resting place for those who died here, that the nation might live. This we may, in all propriety do.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate we can not consecrate we can not hallow, this ground The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have hallowed it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here; while it can never forget what they did here.

It is rather for us, the living, we here be dedicated to the great task remaining before us that, from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here, gave the last full measure of devotion that we here highly resolve these dead shall not have died in vain; that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Would you believe there are photos? The one at the top of this post belongs to the US Library of Congress (Lincoln, by the way, is slightly left of center, in the upper third). The following one is credited to Alexander Gardner, photographer, from November 19, 1863, and is also from the Library of Congress, Civil War Glass Negatives and Related Prints (click to embiggen either or both):

Wow.

Just thought it might be worth mentioning.

I cannot predict what the next 160 years will bring. Have at it.

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    Saint Augustine@SaintAugustine·2y
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    I cannot predict what the next 160 years will bring. Have at it.

    I'm sure it will be fine. Everything's going great.

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    The late Mr. She used to get quite exercised about the Gettysburg Address. In his mind, those who insisted that its last words (most of those who quoted it, it always seemed to me, something of an impartial observer) went:

    that government OF the people, BY the people, FOR the people, shall not perish from the earth

    had it completely wrong.

    He always imagined Lincoln saying:

    that government of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE, for the PEOPLE, shall not perish from the earth.

    Of course, he was a bit of a contrarian about the 23rd Psalm, as well. After he became something of a shepherd himself, he thought of David, a young man stuck out in the fields with the sheep, tasked at a young age with responsibility for their well-being, getting rather fed up and tired with his extravagant efforts on their behalf, and--somewhat self-sorrowfully--thinking to himself, "well, who who the hell is looking out for me? His conclusion, after some thought? "The Lord is MY shepherd."

    Yeah. I don't think he was wrong, in either case.

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    She (View Comment):

    The late Mr. She used to get quite exercised about the Gettysburg Address. In his mind, those who insisted that its last words (most of those who quoted it, it always seemed to me, something of an impartial observer) went:

    that government OF the people, BY the people, FOR the people, shall not perish from the earth

    had it completely wrong.

    He always imagined Lincoln saying:

    that government of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE, for the PEOPLE, shall not perish from the earth.

    Of course, he was a bit of a contrarian about the 23rd Psalm, as well. After he became something of a shepherd himself, he thought of David, a young man stuck out in the fields with the sheep, tasked at a young age with responsibility for their well-being, getting rather fed up and tired with his extravagant efforts on their behalf, and–somewhat self-sorrowfully–thinking to himself, “well, who who the hell is looking out for me? His conclusion, after some thought? “The Lord is MY shepherd.”

    Yeah. I don’t think he was wrong, in either case.

    He was right about Lincoln. So I was told in undergrad.

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    She (View Post):
    I stumbled over the fact that it was only 160 years ago today, on November 19, 1863 (what a very young country this still is...

    My maternal great-grandmother (I was 14 when she died at the age of 99 in 1969, so I remember her clearly) was born four years after Lincoln was assassinated, and she died just a few months before Neil Armstrong walked on the moon.

    My paternal great-grandmother was nine years old when Lincoln delivered the Gettysburg Address. She died quite young, so I never knew her. And Great-Grandpa on that side--who'd have been 15 when Lincoln was assassinated, also died quite early, just after World War I. (Although both he and his son--my paternal grandfather--were too old to serve, or were exempted because their civilian roles were considered essential, they were leaders in managing rationing for Britain for both World Wars. And both of them suffered what must have been a variant of PTS as a result of the extreme challenges they faced.)

    But thanks both to my own experience, and to my Dad's older siblings, two of whom remembered Great-Grandpa quite well, I have a treasure trove of information, related via personal experience, that dates well back into the mid-nineteenth century.

    I'm grateful for the perspective that affords me.

    Please, share family stories with your children. If you don't know your family history, invest in a trial or short-term Ancestry membership, and look it up.

    The more young people we have in this world who come to understand that "history" didn't start on the day they were born, and that it won't end on the day they die, the better off we'll be.

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    She (View Comment):

    that government of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE, for the PEOPLE, shall not perish from the earth.

    That is precisely how Sam Waterston voiced it as Lincoln in Ken Burns' Civil war documentary years ago.

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