3 Whisky Happy HourThe Ricochet PodcastGLoP CultureBeyond the Polls with Henry OlsenGray MattersDaily SignalThe Erick Erickson ShowGiving VenturesMom Wars3 Martini LunchChicks on The RightParsing Immigration PolicyFederalist Radio HourWhat the Hell Is Going OnFreedom to LearnThe Learning CurveThe Conservative Woman’s GuideHeritage ExplainsNot Dead YetWho Funds that?The Radio Free Hillsdale HourThe Glenn ShowFirst Things PodcastCall Me Back - with Dan SenorHillsdale DialoguesLaw Talk with Epstein, Yoo & CookeThe LibertarianThe Report Card with Nat MalkusThe Kevin Roberts Show with Larry O’ConnorThe American IdeaMadison’s NotesConservative Crossroads with Henry OlsenThe Back of the BookMartini ShotThe Dave Carter ShowThe Powerline ShowIn DissentHeard at HeritageSmart Girl PoliticsJames Lileks’ The DinerCase in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and CultureJobMakersOne on One with Robert DoarHomeschooling Journeys with Curious MikeHubwonk

Get the Ricochet app

Ricochet will work fine in a browser on your mobile devices, but for the best experience please download our app.

Download on the App StoreGet it on Google Play

Become a member.

Tired of the toxicity of social media? Why not join Ricochet for just $5/month? Think of it as an online bar. Come in, have a drink, hang out, say whatever you want. But don’t badger, bully, or berate the other drinkers. That's our only rule.

  1. Main Feed/
  2. Government Job Buyout Offers
February 8, 2025 at 2:32 PM

Government Job Buyout Offers

Full Size Tabby
@FullSizeTabby

To read this bio, please join Ricochet.

Join to bookmark20likesJoin to like10comments

Despite my advanced age (almost 69 years), during much of which I have paid at least some attention to politics and government policy, I continue to be baffled by how differently government workers and “private sector” workers view their jobs.

A recent befuddlement is the objection by the (national) government workers to even the offer of a “buyout” incentive to quit in anticipation of possible layoffs to reduce the size of the government workforce.

Befuddled because employee buyout offers are common in private industry, especially when the employer seeks to reduce the size of its workforce. Yet the government workers seem offended by even the offer to an employee buyout as a tool to reduce workforce size.

In my career, I worked for three different large companies. In each I saw that it was common (though not universal) to offer employees “buyouts” (sometimes broadly offered, sometimes targeted to specific groups of employees) before an anticipated layoff. It always made sense to me to seek volunteers before conducting involuntary job eliminations. Just as airlines do with an overbooked flight, offer incentives to get volunteers to give up their seats on the flight before the airline starts bumping passengers involuntarily. Sometimes volunteers make an involuntary layoff unnecessary.

One coworker managed a very advantageous deal when our employer made a buyout offer. My coworker had already lined up a new position at a different company to improve his professional development when the buyout offer was made. So he was able to snag a very generous buyout AND get the new job he wanted anyway.

In other words, pre-layoff buyout offers are pretty standard fare in industry. Employees grow accustomed to evaluating them. “What is the probability I will lose my job in the [potential] coming layoff?” “What payout am I likely to receive if I am laid off in the coming layoff?” “How quickly do I think I could find a new job that I like?” “Is this my chance to do something completely different?”

I was laid off twice during my career. In neither case was my layoff preceded by a buyout offer. Even if I had received a buyout offer, I would likely not have taken it. I liked my job, and (incorrectly, as it turned out) considered it unlikely I would be among the laid off. Nonetheless, I, along with other employees, (mostly) understand that periodic adjustments to workforce levels are necessary. Being laid off is always a potential for people who work in the real world.

Yet government workers don’t seem to grasp this concept. Too many seem to think that we taxpayers have an obligation to continue to employ them for the rest of their lives, regardless of whether they can prove their worth. I know the conventional answer is that government workers see their jobs as something to which they are entitled regardless of what the people who pay their salaries (taxpayers) think is worthwhile.

It’s almost enough to lead one to advocate to “fire them all and make them justify being provided an opportunity to be re-hired." Maybe it’s time for government employees to understand the realities that the rest of us live with every day.

Pre-layoff buyouts are pretty standard for the rest of us.

This post was promoted to the Main Feed at the recommendation of Ricochet's members.

Discussion (10)

Sign in to commentSign in
  • CONTRIBUTOR

    To read this bio, please join Ricochet.

    Seawriter@Seawriter·1y

    They are an entitled lot. I saw one twerp whining on LinkedIn that he was leaving NASA because it had developed into a hostile work environment. Why was it hostile? Because he was now expected to come into the office Monday through Friday. Poor baby.

    I work at JSC (for a contractor). The moaning going on right now amazes me. People that emotionally fragile really should not be working manned spaceflight. It's mostly from the civil servants. Us contractors are the sacrificial anode that allows the civil servants to remain perpetually employed. Budget cut? Lay off subcontractors. Steep cuts. Lay off some of the contractors, too. But not the civil servants. And when the civil servants leave (almost always voluntarily), they get jobs with the contractors and are almost always the last to get laid off (if ever).

    Sad thing is NASA actually has a lot of dedicated, hard-working civil servants, many of whom could get better-paying jobs in the private sector. They are there because they believe in space. And I am still seeing entitlement. I wonder what it is like in places like the Department of Education or Health and Human Services? It has to be sky-high there.

  • To read this bio, please join Ricochet.

    Arahant@Arahant·1y
    ReplyingtoSeawriter

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    I wonder what it is like in places like the Department of Education or Health and Human Services? It has to be sky-high there.

    Without a doubt. And closing the whole things might prove how useless they always were.

  • To read this bio, please join Ricochet.

    Bob Thompson@BobThompson·1y

    I had an offer for early retirement in June 1994 that took me not long to decide to take. I had half a dozen positive reasons and no negatives. I have seen that Clinton had over 300,000 thousand reductions during his term.

  • CHARTER MEMBER

    To read this bio, please join Ricochet.

    Percival@Percival·1y

    For some of them, getting paid for nine months while not doing anything would be the productivity apogee of their government employment.

  • MODERATOR

    To read this bio, please join Ricochet.

    E. Kent Golding@EKentGolding·1y

    I took a very generous buyout from General Motors. I was tired of what I was doing, and had been pigeon-holed. My own fault. In evaluating the buyout, I considered:

    1. I had employable skills.
    2. I was liable to be laid off if I didn't take the buyout, with a much less generous severance.
    3. There were going to be extreme demands put on the people left behind after the buyouts and layoffs. "If you don't like it , quit!".

    I have not been able to match my previous salary, but I expected that. Generally have been able to find work, with good people doing interesting stuff. The US Auto industry has decided contract people on H1-Bs are just the thing to reduce costs. Almost every day brings articles in the paper about people being let go from the auto industry --- but LinkedIn has many many jobs at Contract Houses ( mostly from India) at Warren, Milford, Dearborn, Allen Park, and Auburn Hills -- all jobs at GM , Ford, and Stellantis. Biden increased the cost of living by 20-30% , and H1-Bs are reducing available wages by 20-30%.

    I have little sympathy for government workers who have been overpaid on the teet of the taxpayers. I had an friend in HR at U.S. Army TACOM in Warren. He was amazed at how little work the civilian employees did for what huge salaries.

Scroll for later comments
+5 more comments
Join the conversation

You're seeing five of ten comments. Sign in, or join for just $5 per month, to read them all and add your own.

Trending

Become a member.

Tired of the toxicity of social media? Why not join Ricochet for just $5/month? Think of it as an online bar. Come in, have a drink, hang out, say whatever you want. But don’t badger, bully, or berate the other drinkers. That's our only rule.

Join Ricochet

Get the Ricochet app

Download on the App StoreGet it on Google Play
  • •
  • •