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December 8, 2023 at 7:00 PM

The GOP Elites Want Trump to Win the Nomination

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I know, I know, that is 100% the opposite of what they say, but how do they act? You see, I am told that the Democrats are working hard with their prosecution/persecution of Trump to make sure he is nominated so they can then beat him in the General. Not what they say they are doing, but it is the real behind the scenes plan. Crazy like a fox!

Well, I was thinking about this in regards to the GOPe. It seems to me, if party leaders were dedicated to stopping Trump, they sure have a funny way of doing it. It was the last debate that did it.

First off, the debates are all about finding the alternative to Trump. At least, that is what they say they are about. However, they keep having people on stage with no chance of that at all. Vivek Ramaswamy and Chris Christie are not going to be that person. They were never going to be that person. It has been obvious from day one. The only two with a shot, who really have ever had a shot, are Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis. So why is it that the GOP does not concentrate on the two of them? DeSantis representing the MAGA agenda less Trump and Haley the GOP Donor class. They are the two sides of the split in the GOP. If Trump were to drop dead, we would have a real fight on our hands between these two, because let's be honest, the Donor class hates DeSantis, they just hate Trump more.

More to the point, why on Earth have the debate on a network no one watches? Ratings keep going down for these things. No one is paying attention. If the goal is to stop Trump, they are doing a really, I mean really, poor job at it. Like Lord North Government poor job.

So, if the Democrats are "crazy like a fox" I think it is fair to say that the GOPe are just as fox-like. I think their goal is a Trump Nomination and then a loss in the General.

Now, as to why that would be, I have an answer:

It is to destroy the MAGA uprising. Basically, the GOPe is willing to take as many losses as possible, all to get "their" party back. They have been sneering at the GOP base for the greater part of a decade now, and they are just fed up with these morons supporting Trump. Can't they see just how bad Trump is? He is just so unfit! Especially after four years in office demonstrated most of the 2016 fears were unfounded. Trump supporters are too stupid to see it. Trump is a threat to democracy. Or decorum. Or something. Actually, the reality is, he is a threat to business as usual which works for the GOPe and Donor class.

So, they are willing to keep suffering with Marxist leaders, violations of the rule of law, politicization of every branch of government, whatever it takes, all to purge the GOP. Not of Trump mind you. No, they want to break the spirit of the Trump voter. Their goal is to make the Trump voter, the person wanting a change in the GOP to despair and give up. Go back to being a silent voter who votes how they tell them.

That is their plan. Let's see how it goes.

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    Bob Thompson@BobThompson·2y
    Bryan G. Stephens (View Post):
    Especially after is four years in office demonstrated most of the 2016 fears were unfounded.

    I think you mean the 'publicly expressed' fears, not the real ones as mentioned at the end of the paragraph.

    I agree with your point regarding the Republican Party objectives. It has become very obvious that winning the White House is not high on the list.

  • Banned Member@DrewInWisconsin·2y
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Post):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Post):
    Especially after is four years in office demonstrated most of the 2016 fears were unfounded.

    I think you mean the ‘publicly expressed’ fears, not the real ones as mentioned at the end of the paragraph.

    I agree with your point regarding the Republican Party objectives. It has become very obvious that winning the White House is not high on the list.

    Just note how many Republicans fled the House after 2016 when they suddenly discovered they had the trifecta and would be required to keep promises.

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    Bob Thompson@BobThompson·2y
    ReplyingtoDrewInWisconsin, Lower Order Oaf

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Post):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Post):
    Especially after is four years in office demonstrated most of the 2016 fears were unfounded.

    I think you mean the ‘publicly expressed’ fears, not the real ones as mentioned at the end of the paragraph.

    I agree with your point regarding the Republican Party objectives. It has become very obvious that winning the White House is not high on the list.

    DrewInWisconsin, Lower Order O… (View Comment):

    Just note how many Republicans fled the House after 2016 when they suddenly discovered they had the trifecta and would be required to keep promises.

    Let's field the best possible American candidates to compete in those races.

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    OmegaPaladin@OmegaPaladin·2y

    I think cut a deal with Ronna - keep her RNC chair in exchange for tanking the debates. Why else would he support her after her losing record?

    I hopc Trump has a plan for 2024, as every elite will turn against him as soon as he locks up the nomination

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    David C. Broussard@Dbroussa·2y
    Bryan G. Stephens (View Post):
    It is to destroy the MAGA uprising. Basically, the GOPe is willing to take as many losses as possible, all to get “their” party back.

    Nailed it. First, they tried to co-opt Trump and to an extent Trumpism and see if he was compliant and willing to follow the Banana Republicans' direction. They couldn't do it as blatantly as they co-opted the TEA Party, but they wanted to. Once he was in office, they couldn't (all) openly oppose them, but Speaker Ryan and Leader McConnell did their level best to block everything that he campaigned on while passing what THEY felt that the country needed. The idea was that first, the GOP would do tax reform, and THEN border security. Yeah, right. Ryan and McConnell were never going to do border security. Of course, the GOP lost the house in '18, and returning Speaker Pelosi, in theory, could have gotten Trump to go with wild infrastructure spending, but she didn't. All of this mired in the idiotic Russian Collusion debacle that they all secretly hoped was true to get rid of him.

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