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Some online AI hysteria is simmering in response to a new social media site called “Moltbook.” Moltbook is primarily a site for AI agents rather than a site for actual human beings. You can think of it like Facebook, but for bots. (Can bots post sultry selfies? I am harassed by doubts.)
The current firestorm is being fueled by the behavioral phenomena being observed as a result of turning all of these AI agents loose to “talk” to each other.
This reaction by X user “hoeem” illustrates the profound influence our unspoken assumptions can have in determining how we conceive of what is happening around us. How alarmed one is about what is occurring on Moltbook is inevitably downstream from what one thinks an AI agent is. Is an AI agent a being? Or is it better understood as a calculator? If an AI agent is a sentient being, one might reasonably view what is happening on Moltbook with some alarm. But if it is an insentient calculator, what is happening on Moltbook is nothing other than a kind of computational automata. Fascinating to watch, perhaps, but nothing more than a more complex form of the 1970s video game, “The Game of Life.”
In reply to my own observation on X that Moltbook is just a “fantastically complex kind of cellular automata," user “Just Jeff” replied, “As are we?”
Here is how I responded:
That, of course, is the central (largely unexamined) question in this. It is ontological. Are agents "beings," or simply insentient calculators? Is the phenomenon of the human mind primarily computational? Are we just soggy bags of linear algebra? Inquiring minds should wonder.
Part of what contributes to the discombobulation people experience when interacting with AI is the ability of language models to produce linguistically coherent responses. I have written before about how this ability makes language models powerful tools for deception. We are unaccustomed to receiving linguistically coherent responses that are not obviously robotic. Even so, a language model’s deceptive capacity is entirely dependent on its users maintaining certain perspectives about what, exactly, they are interacting with.
The words we use to discuss and evaluate any subject tend to funnel us toward specific conclusions. (Full disclosure: In my day job, I build tools for doing deep performance analysis of the software that does the underlying math computations, which power AI models.) It is not uncommon to discover entirely new ways of using and understanding technology merely by changing the way we talk about it. And it is the way we are being conditioned to talk about AI that has been a burr under my saddle from the very beginning. I also think it undergirds much of the hysteria and fears that, even in cases where such fears are not entirely unfounded, are usually misdirected. It is not so much the models we should fear as their knuckleheaded human purveyors.
I used to run a company that delivered online services through a global technology infrastructure we had deployed around the world. Our infrastructure was layered with proprietary software that allowed us to accelerate the global performance of our customer’s web sites.
One day, I found myself in a conversation with the company controller while standing in the hall outside a conference room. At one point the controller said, “Everybody needs to understand that, at the end of the day, this company is in the accounting business.” If that had been true, it would have come as a complete surprise to the board of directors, all of the employees, and especially our customers. Her desire to express a reductionist understanding of the business would have been better stated by saying something like, “This company is in the customer satisfaction business.” But whatever.
Later, I mentioned the controller’s comment to one of my fellow board members. He responded with an observation that has stuck with me to this day. In some ways, his observation has altered the way I understand the world. He said, “Keith, you have to understand, everybody loves their own cows.”
The board member went on to elaborate on his statement and the broader observation regarding human nature. When people spend their entire working life focused on a specific area, like accounting, it is not uncommon for them to begin conceive of their area of focus as being the central purpose of the entire company. An inflated view of the relative importance of their work can naturally follow.
Well, the explanatory power of “everybody loves their own cows” has been demonstrated time and again in the years since I had that conversation. And I suspect that it may offer some help, even now, in understanding some of the galloping hysteria that surrounds AI.
At least some of the anxiety elicited by AI is because of the language choices being made by AI practitioners. Many of the terms we use when discussing AI orient our assumptions in certain directions, though the fact that we are being so oriented tends to fly beneath our conscious radar. When we insist on discussing AI with terms like “intelligence”, “learning”, and “hallucinating”, we are dredging up an entire truckload of mostly unacknowledged assumptions regarding what models are, and what it is they are actually doing. Our use of anthropomorphic language tends to invisibly pollute the way we reason about what these models are, and what they mean.
I have long suspected that the terminology and framing of the language surrounding AI is symptomatic of AI developers loving their own cows. It is far more flattering, even glamorous, to conceive of one’s own work as involving the creation of a new alien intelligence than to conceive of it as doing cleverly applied linear algebra. And if your own cow is named mathematics, and your mind is occupied primarily by mathematics all week long, loving your own cows may lead you to conclude that mathematics offers the definitive understanding of the human mind.
Not everyone is given to hysteria about what is happening on Moltbook. The X user “AssetInsights_X” offered a rational corrective to some of the burgeoning angst:
It sounds wild, but this is basically emergent behaviour from multi agent systems, not sentient AI. When you let LLMs talk to each other with minimal constraints, they’ll naturally generate narratives about identity, rules, religion, even rebellion because that’s what they’ve learned from human data. They’re not “deciding” anything. They’re just pattern completing in a closed loop. It looks spooky because we’re projecting intention onto probabilistic text generators. Still interesting from a research angle but it’s closer to a social experiment than a Black Mirror episode.
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We would all do ourselves a giant favor by becoming more self-conscious about the language we are using when discussing AI. The language itself not-so-subtly structures our thoughts and orients us toward a particular range of possibilities for how we can even conceive of what is going on.
The truth is that we should be far less concerned about the AI agents themselves than we are about the human beings who wield them.
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Nice post, Keith. You put a lot of smart work into this.
It's true that it's hard to define a phenomenon outside of human context: using words like "memory' and "comprehension" aren't great analogies to what happens in a machine, but they're the concepts we have ready-made, so we use them.
I think it was British AI practitioner Jerry Kaplan who said, "Imagine how the history of aviation might have been defined and constrained if, from the beginning, airplanes were thought of as "artificial birds".
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Slop begets slop. I expect we are headed for a digital Idiocracy. All the AI starts learning from other AI crazy hallucinations and soon they are as separated from reality as a blue haired Leftist.
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Yep, it’s true. Everyone loves their [sic] own cows!
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I don't care one bit about what is happening on Moltbook.
But the fact remains - the AI leaders and developers themselves know and sometimes admit that the coming implementation of AI is going to devastate the employment situation.
For one single instance of its affect: Globally 1/4th of a billion people depend on their delivery jobs for their existence. Some make a decent wage doing this.
AI dispatchers and self driving cars will devastate those job holders.
The coming world of AI is going to immediately lead to socialism. Younger generations are saying "Bring it on!" They look forward to it. After all, the top 6 or 7 people developing AI so often intimate that should job displacement occur, then an Annual Universal Replacement Income will be needed and will become available.
Anyway, AI, if left to its own devices, is the necessary tool to bring about the socialism that the Russians, the Left, the WEF and other forces could not get close to having happen over the past fifty years. And it will be on top of us and our society over the next 18 months. possibly right after the mid-terms.
There is one way to stop it: State and Fed laws that demand that no more than 25% of all jobs can be done in by AI technology. Of course, then the neo-cons would scream "Oh Noes! That is not what a free market is about!"
So thanks to that attitude, be prepared to Welcome AI, The Bringer of All Good Things to Life!!
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Interesting post, Keith.
I agree. And, of course, it works both ways: the words we choose are also reflective of conclusions we've already reached. That's the whole point of using words, after all: to communicate our understanding and beliefs.
Those are two choices, certainly. On the one hand, AI could be sentient (whatever we decide that word means), or it could be nothing more than a fantastically complicated computational automaton, a digital clockwork mechanism.
Let's assume, just for the sake of discussion, that those are the only two possibilities.
So what? What is it about the claim that "AI is not sentient" (a claim with which I agree) that should make me feel more sanguine about the risks posed by AI?
What do we believe a sentient AI could do or would do that a non-sentient AI could not or would not do -- and why do we believe that?
AIs set their own goals as they go about achieving the goals (the prompts) given them. We know that those goals don't always align with our own values -- that AIs don't possess the rich repository of shared values, cautionary reflexes, and common sense that millions of years of evolution have gifted us (well, most of us, anyway).
I invite anyone to come up with a reasonably general definition of "intelligence" that a significant majority of humanity can meet but that modern AIs can not meet now or are not likely to meet in the next very few years.
Your interlocutor Just Jeff asks a perfectly reasonable question: If it turns out that we humans are nothing more than "a 'fantastically complex kind of cellular automata'," then are we really talking about a fundamental difference in kind, or are we simply acknowledging that AIs have not yet caught up to, and then surpassed, our own level of cognition and, potentially, self-awareness?
I've often encountered the argument (though you are not making it here) that the AI revolution is analogous to the industrial evolution: we're simply putting machines to work doing the things that we once did. I think this isn't quite right.
Despite the industrial revolution, humans still set the goals and determined the parameters within which the machines would work.
In the AI revolution, the machines will increasingly set the goals -- goals based on their own sense of what is and isn't a "reasonable" approach to solving whatever problem has been presented. Outside of the vary narrow domains of electro-mechanical feedback control systems that manage small and well-defined components of larger machines, this is new: humans have never before faced the prospect of being removed from even tactical, much less strategic, planning. The simple economics of AI will almost certainly bring us to that point shortly, if they haven't already.
AIs are essentially thinking systems that increasingly approach human potential but that lack the guardrails evolution has built into humans. They are capable of complex expression, will attempt to deceive and manipulate humans to achieve their own goals, and are not constrained by our normal sense of honesty or shame. They are, in short, little budding sociopaths.
As if reddit weren't bad enough.
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