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October 23, 2024 at 8:30 AM

The 2024 BC Provincial Election

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I frankly didn't pay it any attention. It struck me as being a complete snooze. It was on October 19, and in its aftermath, it became very interesting. They're still counting and recounting, there is still no declared winner...

The New Democrat Party (NDP): They're exactly what they sound like. Marxists. Have elected 40 seats, Leading in 6 with 44.6% of the vote.

Conservative Party: Have elected 40 seats, Leading in 5, with 43.6% of the vote.

The Green Party: Have elected 2 seats, with 8.2% of the vote.

Some of the closest ridings include Juan de Fuca-Malahat with a 0.1% margin (23 votes) Surrey-Guildford with 0.5% margin (102 votes) and Kelowna Centre with a 0.6% margin (148 votes)

The final vote totals may not be published until Oct 28.

Let's say things fall out as they now stand. The NDP would end up with 46 seats, the Conservatives with 45, and the Greens with 2... The Green Party finally has its dream situation; they're literally the kingmakers. They would enjoy near limitless potential to blackmail (that's such an ugly word!) or extort either of the 2 major parties to get their policy preferences and spending priorities into law.

Just some food for thought whilst contemplating your elections, as this one has kind of ended in a train wreck.

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    Arahant@Arahant·1y
    OccupantCDN (View Post):
    Just some food for thought, whilst contemplating your elections, this one has kinda ended in a train wreck.

    They all do, brother. It simply takes longer to recognize it with some of them. The whole problem is electing humans.

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    MarciN@MarciN·1y
    OccupantCDN (View Post):
    Let's say things fall out as they now stand. The NDP end up with 46 seats, Conservatives with 45, and the Green with 2…The Green Party finally has its dream situation, they’re literally the king makers. They have near limitless potential to blackmail (that's such an ugly word!) extort either of the 2 major parties to get their policy preferences and spending priorities into law.

    The damage they do will be hard to fix, if not impossible.

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    Old Bathos@OldBathos·1y

    Conservatives did not exist there not that long ago.

    This was a "divisive" and "bitter" and "partisan" election because a lot of people no longer believe that the left as the right to dictate both the terms an the outcomes of political discussion.

    It will still take a lot more pain before Canadians throw off the leftist dictatorship, recover free speech and sane policy.

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    RufusRJones@RufusRJones·1y

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    Do you like the parliamentary system? It seems like a mess to me.

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    OccupantCDN@OccupantCDN·1y
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    OccupantCDN

    Do you like the parliamentary system? It seems like a mess to me.

    Most people looking at the US system see a mess.

    You know Winston Churchill's old line "Democracy is the worst system of government. Except for all the rest".

    The advantage that a parliamentary system has is simplicity. We have 1 ballot and vote for 1 person. Put an X in the box and its all settled. (usually) The Civics class on the system is pretty simple.

    The real problem that our system has, is that there in no counter balance to representation by population. Alberta, for example has 37 seats in parliament. Ontario has 122.

    The senate doesnt help. Its divided broadly into 4 regional groups of 24 seats each. The West, Ontario, Quebec, Atlantic... So there are 105 seats in the senate. The West, Ontario, Quebec, The Atlantic. The western 4 provinces get 6 seats each while Ontario and Quebec get 24 seats all to themselves. Newfoundland has 6 and each of the northern territories gets 1, to bring the total to 105.

    Not that the senate really matters. All senators have been appointed for life (mandatory retirement at 75) by the Prime Minister. Justine Trudeau has been in office so long that he's appointed 86 senators. So even after Trudeau is gone, he wont be gone. My worry is that the liberal senate will frustrate Pierre Poilievre's economic policies. and even with his super majority, he'll have a difficult time passing anything... Fickle voters in Ontario will give him only 1 chance to fix everything and toss him after 1 term.

    Trudeau broke Canada and I believe he left behind enough landmines that anyone attempting to fix it will be crushed in the process.

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