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May 6, 2024 at 8:32 AM

Am I a Bigot?

Susan Quinn
@SusanQuinn

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I am struggling with a decision that I feel I must make to have peace of mind. And I’ve been contemplating it for weeks and find no matter what I decide, I believe I will lose. So I’m seeking out the advice of Ricochetees for your perspective to help me clarify the issue.

My question revolves around my volunteer work with Convention of States (https://conventionofstates.com/). Some of you already know that I was delighted to discover them, and even found I could play a role in writing for their blog. They are using Article V of the Constitution to respond to the abuses of the federal government and to return power to the people and the states. They have a Judeo-Christian focus. They are a principled organization, and the people with whom I’ve interacted have been friendly and helpful. No one has exerted pressure on me to take on more responsibility than I have. And the blog writing has given me the opportunity to work with other members, not only getting their help with the technical aspects, but their feedback on my writing.

Sounds great, doesn’t it?

The problem I identified showed up when I was asked if I wanted to sign up for their “Servant Leadership” class. It was scheduled to last nine weeks, included required reading, and we met on Zoom for each one-hour class. As I began to read the workbook, I discovered there were several quotations from the New Testament to support the course teachings. There were also a few quotations from the Old Testament, and Viktor Frankl was quoted twice; my “cynical self” wondered whether those were included to provide some kind of balance to the Christian overtones. We also begin every class with a prayer that is not specifically Christian, and I can’t decide whether that works for me or not.

We also use Slack, a messaging channel, and the people in my communications group don’t make Christian references at all; in fact, one woman is apparently Jewish but not observant. Others on our Slack Channel, however, often refer to God; I respect people who are religious but don’t necessarily want to be exposed to their religiosity.

The most recent comment shared was by the founder of the organization. He had mentioned in an earlier video as an aside that he was a convert to Christianity, which sounded fine, although the context was odd. The other day he mentioned in a recent video that he was a Jewish Christian; I don’t know why he thought it was important to state. Some of you may know that I’m uncomfortable with the idea of blending the two faiths, even though one of my favorite Ricochetees professes to be a Messianic Jew.

So what’s my beef?

Several events and situations could be contributing to my discomfort. I’ve never been particularly comfortable with blatantly Christian references. In the class I’m taking, other religious quotations could have been used, including the Buddha or Lao Tzu, but they weren’t. I would have preferred that quotations come from our esteemed Americans, particularly the Founders. Abraham Lincoln was quoted in one section (although I'm only halfway through the class).

There are also the events occurring in this country regarding anti-Semitism that are probably contributing to my sensitivity; absolutely no one in COS has said anything that could remotely be considered anti-Jew, but their frequent Christian references serve to remind me that I am an outsider. I’ve spent my whole life feeling like an outsider, to one degree or another, and am uneasy about the messages underneath the references. I wonder to what degree the organization’s calling itself “Judeo-Christian” calls for them to include religion in their publishing.

If I decide to leave the organization, I feel the need to give them some feedback. I don’t expect them to change anything; in some respects, I’m the one with the problem, not them. But I’m unclear on my own motivations: am I being unreasonable, expecting the organization to rely on non-religious sources? Should I just focus on my own contribution and my communications team and let the rest of it go?

Am I simply a bigot?

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    namlliT noD@DonTillman·2y

    We, as a nation, have a long history of prayer in government, and Jewish citizens from the beginning. As well as other religions, and agnostic and atheist people. A historical look at how this has been handled would be interesting.

    Secondly, would a Convention of States actually do any good? What would it get us that we can't do already but haven't because we're too lazy, weak, or disorganized? Could a Convention of States be redirected to do more harm than good?

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    Susan Quinn@SusanQuinn·2y
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Secondly, would a Convention of States actually do any good? What would it get us that we can’t do already but haven’t because we’re too lazy, weak, or disorganized? Could a Convention of States be redirected to do more harm than good?

    I've covered these questions extensively in other posts, Don. They have many safeguards in place. The fact is that the legislators are too lazy, weak or disorganized. COS has a structured way to go through the process that would be very difficult to sabotage. I did my homework before I signed up.

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    Postmodern Hoplite@PostmodernHoplite·2y

    @SusanQuinn - thank you for posting this; you present several distinct issues, all of which I think are worthy of thoughtful discussion. I hope this post makes it to the Main Feed.

    Regarding the leading question, “Am I (Susan Quinn) a bigot?” Here’s my two-cents worth: if you are asking the question with a sincere and thoughtful heart, the answer is “no.” Bigotry is by its nature both unthinking and unaware. No one makes a bigoted statement, or holds bigoted views, having likewise thought carefully about it.

    As far as the other topics, I’m curious to see what other threads might develop from the OP.

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    Susan Quinn@SusanQuinn·2y
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    Postmodern Hoplite (View Comment):

    @SusanQuinn – thank you for posting this; you present several distinct issues, all of which I think are worthy of thoughtful discussion.

    Thanks, PH. The other thing I worry about is that I sometimes overcomplicate issues. But my faith seems to be high on society's radar right now, so I decided it was worth exploring.

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    Arahant@Arahant·2y

    Does a fish know water? Does a bird see the air? Do they know how blatant it seems to others? From the perspective that you are the one who sees this situation as problematic, you have choices they do not.

    It is like having a friend who makes a particular grammatical error often. Will you point it out every time she makes the error? Will you get upset at her ignorance? Will you get stressed out with your shoulders up around your ears because she might do that again today? She's eighty-two years old and never learned that nuance of grammar. Are you going to beat her over the head about it and maybe damage the friendship? Or are you going to ignore it and let it go? Or will you maybe mention it once very gently, and then ignore it and let it go afterwards if she does not remember? You have all the choices here.

    One large choice is whether to make small things spoil relationships. And, yes, I acknowledge that you may see this as a large thing. They keep waving this Christianity stuff in your face, after all. But, it's who they are. It is the focus of their lives. They can't help talking about it anymore than that eighty-two-year-old woman can help talking about her grandkids. They do not mean to offend, but it is all that they can see. It is all they know. They are trying to do something large in life, but their journey has to start where they are. They may change themselves over time, but they are who they are right now. They do not know they are doing anything that offends, and they cannot move out of who they are without knowing they should.

    Thus, we again come to your choices. Perhaps suggesting other references and perspectives might be helpful. You think that a reference to a Buddhist or Taoist saying will help improve the materials? Could you suggest it? More quotations of Americans could help? Could you suggest it? Rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater, perhaps keep in mind the aim is a clean baby and suggest cleaner bathwater?

    Whatever you do, you have the power in this situation. Use your power well.

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