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January 11, 2024 at 9:43 AM

What, Precisely, is the Issue with ‘Elites’?

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Conservatives/libertarians and especially Trump supporters often speak about “elites” in pejorative terms. Why is this? I doubt that many among these groups would argue in favor of mediocrity (a la the senator who famously argued that mediocre people also deserve representation on the Supreme Court) and/or of extreme egalitarianism and social leveling. Indeed, quite a few outspoken conservatives and libertarians could themselves be considered to have elite status in view of their professional, economic, and/or scholarly accomplishments. So what is the critique of elitism all about?

Several factors seem to me to be at work…

1)There is a perception that the multiple ladders of success which have existed in American society are increasingly being collapsed into a single ladder, with access tightly controlled via educational credentials

2)It is increasingly observed that these credentials actually have fairly low predictive power concerning an individual’s actual ability to perform important tasks and make wise judgments about institutional or national issues. The assumption that school-based knowledge generally trumps practical experience seems increasingly questionable as the sphere of activity for which this assertion is made has expanded, and is indeed increasingly viewed with suspicion or with outright disdain.

3)It is observed that people working in certain fields arrogate to themselves an assumed elite status despite the fact that their jobs actually require relatively little in terms of skill and judgment. Ace of Spades cites a history writer on class distinctions in Victorian England:

She noted, for example, that a Bank of England clerk would be a member of the middle/professional class, despite the fact that what he did all day was hand-write numbers into ledgers and do simple arithmetic and some filing work and the like, whereas, say, a carpenter actually did real thinking, real planning, at his job, with elements of real creativity. And yet it was the Bank of England clerk who was considered a “mind” worker and the carpenter merely a hand-laborer.

Ace suggests that “that distinction has obviously persisted, even in America, with the ingrained sort of idea that a low-level associate producer making crap money and rote choices on an MSNBC daytime talk show was somehow 'above' someone making real command decisions in his occupation, like a plumber. And this sort of idea is very important to that low-level producer at MSNBC, because by thinking this way, he puts himself in the league of doctors and engineers.”

(The same prejudice can be seen in terminology currently used in discussions of community colleges and technical schools: that these institutions are needed to train people for “mid-skill” jobs, with the implication being that people with 4-year degrees automatically have higher-skilled jobs than people with fewer years of seat time. Really? An undergraduate sociology major performing some rote job at a “non-profit” is doing something requiring higher skills than a toolmaker or an air traffic controller?)

4)Marriage, and even serious dating, seem increasingly to follow class boundaries, with “class” being defined very largely by educational credentials. Part of this is due to expanded educational and career opportunities for women—the doctor who once would have married his receptionist may now marry a female doctor—but I think a good part of this is due to the very high valuation placed on educational credentials. This phenomenon, of course, tends to lead to the solidification and perpetuation of class barriers.

5)People who have achieved success in one field too often assume a faux expertise in unrelated fields, as with the actor or singer who is credited with having something worthwhile to say about foreign policy or economics, irrespective of lack of study/experience in those fields.

6)People who have achieved success via the manipulation of words and images have increasingly tended to discount all other forms of intelligence…for those who attacked George W Bush as “stupid”, for example. The fact that he learned to fly a supersonic fighter (the F-102, not the most pilot-friendly airplane ever designed) was a totally irrelevant piece of data.

Increasingly, many of these word-and-image-people seem to feel that they should have control over the government and its policies, or at least have veto power over which candidates are acceptable to be offered to the voters for their tightly constrained choice. See my posts Living in the Hate of the Common People and Hate of the Common People, continued for examples of the kind of arrogance that I'm talking about.

7)Markers that have played a role in assessing class status in many societies—accent and manner of speech, in particular—seem to be becoming increasingly important. This factor has a lot to do with the hostility directed toward Sarah Palin as well as that directed toward George W Bush. Had these two individuals spoken in the manner expected of one who has attended boarding schools and expensive eastern colleges—regardless of the academic quality of those schools and colleges—their critics would still have probably disliked them, but the hostility would have lost much of its hysterical edge.

8)There is concern that those providing direction to institutions increasingly bear little of the burden for their own failures. This is especially true of government—particularly the legislature and the courts, where a bad decision will generally have no negative consequences whatsoever for the individuals making it and of those who run the K-12 government schools—but also to a disturbing extent in the business world, especially with regard to those corporations with close ties with government and those in the financial sector.

9)There is concern that the people directing institutions increasingly have life experiences totally different from their employees and customers. Many of the “robber barons” of yore had actually started as low-level workers, and regardless of how much they exploited their own workers, they could understand and identify with them in a manner that is very difficult for someone whose path has involved 6 years of college followed by a series of fast-track corporate assignments.

10) There is a perception that members of one profession—lawyers—play a vastly disproportionate role in our political process, resulting in public policies which benefit that group and often fail because they reflect an excessively narrow worldview and set of life experiences.

11) It is increasingly recognized that people in some fields claim levels of expertise that are not really justified by the actual state and results of those fields. The predictive power of sociology, for example, is not equivalent to that of physics.

12) Many institutions have lost respect because the criteria for entering those institutions are unrelated to merit, and/or there is significant fraud going on in the process of getting in and gaining promotions... Consider those parents who were caught creating fake records of sports accomplishments for their children to improve their chances for the Ivy League.

13) There is a sense that too many Americans in prominent positions have little identification with their fellow citizens, identifying primarily with their peers in other countries. And an increasing proportion of them get their incomes directly or indirectly from government, and hence have little sympathy for people who operate without such subsidies and security blankets.

14) People observe that individuals in positions of power often impose restrictions on other people which they have no intention of abiding themselves—the case of the French Laundry restaurant-going during Covid lockdown in California being a case in point.


So, I don’t think that what upsets people is really about the existence of elites so much as they are about the current structure of many elite and faux-elite groups and the characteristics and performance of those who currently inhabit them. I do hear more than I like, though, from some conservative commentators in the way of attacks on 'the rich' without distinguishing from the rich who have earned their money versus those who have simply manipulated the system. Conservatives would do better to not sound like socialists or Jacobins.

Thoughts?

(I published an earlier version of this post at Chicago Boyz many years ago; many thoughtful comments at the thread there)

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    kedavis@kedavis·2y
    David Foster (View Post):
    Increasingly, many of the word and image people seem to feel that they should have control over the government and its policies, or at least have veto power over which candidates are acceptable to be offered to the voters for their (very highly constrained) choice.

    There's another place with some "word and image people" who seem to think that gives them extra-special insight and wisdom.

    It starts with an R, ends with a t, sounds kinda like "machete..."

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    The Reticulator@TheReticulator·2y
    David Foster (View Post):
    Thoughts?

    I prefer others terms, such as "ruling class," which doesn't necessarily mean the people who give out orders. In another society I would say it includes not only the king, but the king's butler, who lords it over the other butlers.

    There is also a synonym I sometimes use, if the audience warrants it: Oppressor Class.

    Another is deep state (and those adjacent to it).

    If I were to use the term "elite," it might be better to say "self-styled elites."

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    Gossamer Cat@GossamerCat·2y
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    If I were to use the term “elite,” it might be better to say “self-styled elites.”

    I think that is at the crux of it. Americans still admire those who are highly successful, intelligent, skilled or insightful, but the designation of "elite" is earned not self-bestowed or conferred through some academic credential.

    Nice essay!

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    James Lileks@jameslileks·2y
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    If I were to use the term “elite,” it might be better to say “self-styled elites.”

    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    I think that is at the crux of it. Americans still admire those who are highly successful, intelligent, skilled or insightful, but the designation of “elite” is earned not self-bestowed or conferred through some academic credential.

    Nice essay!

    Seconded. Elites are necessary. A technocratic managerial class that thinks a PhD - achieved by reheating some one else's jargon-laden onanistic boilerplate - is a marker of achievement, intellect, and wisdom, is the problem.

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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill@CarolJoy·2y
    How did a person get to be an "elite" ?? That is one of the necessary questions. Asserting powers above & beyond what should be legal, to redesign our system of governance plus the use of "fixers" who handle the necessary wet works, like the July 2016 murder of Seth Rich, the DNC data base handler, plus blackmail as well as being handled by foreign entities and their spy operations. Take William Jefferson Clinton as an example. As a young man, he was a Rhodes scholar, and went off to Oxford. On the surface, he looked to many as a very bright individual who using his charisma and intellect managed to go from a middle class background off to the ivory towers of Oxford and not too much time later he captured the gubinatorial spot in Arkansas. But somewhere along the way, he had a mentor who suggested that a necessary strategy for holding onto political power was to see to it that the state of Arkansas' judiciary system was rigged by Clinton and his associates, such that he and his wife could get away with whatever they needed to get away with. That same template, once only operating in Chicago Illinois and Arkansas, is now operative across the nation in terms of our federal judiciary system. It is now so flawlessly designed such that the "system" can go after one man, Donald Trump, using flagrantly inflated charges and then Trump ends up being forced to endure a kangaroo court system with kangaroo court system rulings. This system is also responsible for the many J6 prisoners who are guilty of absolutely nothing other than being hammered by the same system. Then you have another "elite" - one Jeffrey Epstein, whose connection to William Barr's father in the 1970's allowed him a teaching position at an exclusive boys' school in Manhattan NYC. After being dismissed from there, and because while there he had tutored the son of Bear Stearns Ace Greenberg, Epstein ends up at Bear Stearn. He works at that company from 1976 thru 1981. By the time he left the firm, he had with the help of James Cayne, then the CEO of Bear Stearns, become a limited partner. In 1981, Epstein founds Intercontinental Assets Group Inc. Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in Cambridge, MA on 9/8/04. Epstein is connected with several prominent people including politicians, actors and academics. Epstein was convicted of having sex with an underaged woman. (Photo by Rick Friedman/Rick Friedman PhotGetty | Rick Friedman / Patrick McMullan In 1987, Epstein began consulting for Hoffenberg, who was the chairman of Towers Financial Corporation, a debt collection agency. According to Vanity Fair, however, "Hoffenberg began using company funds to pay off earlier investors and service a lavish lifestyle that included a mansion on Long Island, homes on Manhattan's Sutton Place and in Florida, and a fleet of cars and planes." Hoffenberg would later be convicted of running a Ponzi scheme and sentenced to 20 years in prison. He also had to pay massive fines of hundreds of millions of dollars. My comment: Epstein was in this mess just as badly as Hoffenberg was. However he apparently paid off the Fed investigators who were writing up their assessment of this business arrangement, as Epstein did no prison time & several years before his death in 2019, two of those investigators were named as executors of his estate. From this website's page: https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/jeffrey-epstein-life-crimes-timeline-47492106
    • Late 1980s: Epstein meets Leslie Wexner. Sometime in the late 1980s, Epstein linked up with Wexner, the founder of L Brands, which includes Victoria's Secret and Bath & Body Works. The two quickly became close, and Wexner handed over a large amount of financial control to Epstein. A source told Vanity Fair in 2003, "Wexner trusts Epstein so completely that he has assigned him the power of fiduciary over all of his private trusts and foundations." My comment - was it strictly trust and friendship between them, or a tawdry business association, such that Wexner created a sex trafficking ring much like Epstein's? Or was Epstein following Wexner's lead?
    • 1989: Epstein gives deposition on leaving Bear Stearns. A tip suggesting a case of insider trading led to an SEC investigation of Bear Stearns. According to Vanity Fair, Epstein told the SEC he left Bear Stearns because he didn't like the way the firm withheld his promotion to partner after finding out he had loaned money to a friend to buy stock.
    • 1991: Hoffenberg is sued. After Epstein orchestrated massive schemes to manipulate stocks, Hoffenberg took the fall and was sued in 1991. My comment: Epstein somehow managed to face no charges.
    • Early 1990s: Epstein meets Ghislaine Maxwell. Epstein met British socialite Maxwell, who would later be accused of facilitating Epstein's sex-trafficking of underage girls, in the early 1990s. The two dated for awhile, and she remained loyal to him for about 20 years through multiple lawsuits. My comment: it is widely known that Maxwell's father was an asset for Mossad.
    • 2003: Vanity Fair publishes lengthy profile but leaves out assault allegations. Journalist Vicky Ward wrote a profile on Epstein for Vanity Fair describing his personal life and going into great detail about his financial manipulation. Ward said years later that she wanted to expose Epstein's sexual assault allegations in greater detail, as she had multiple accusers on record, but the magazine blocked her from doing so. Former Editor in Chief Graydon Carter told The New York Times that that was inaccurate.
    Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein in Cambridge, MA on 9/8/04. Epstein is connected with several prominent people including politicians, actors and academics. Epstein was convicted of having sex with an underaged woman. (Photo by Rick Friedman/Rick Friedman Phot My additional comment: It should be noted that Leon Black, the owner of the Apollo firm, had Epstein do some work for him. Initially Epstein was to be paid some 2 million dollars, but then he raised the price to 20 million. In the end, according to emails that have been retrieved, Epstein was able to twist Black into paying him 120 million, because, according to how Epstein put it, "the personal confidences you have shared with me need to be kept quiet." (I'm paraphrasing, but it seems like Epstein had used his wall to wall camera system in either his Florida, NY, New Mexico or in his Virgin Island resort to gain some damning photographs and vids of Mr Black.) This is how it's done - you have to ignore most of the Ten Commandments & dozens of laws to arrive at the position of an elite.
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