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I would guess I have heard or read at least a hundred times that Democrats/progressives/the left believe in the perfectability of man. To many conservatives, progressives have faith that if only they are given enough authority, they can change human nature and make humanity perfect. "Perfect" isn't my exaggeration of what is said. That's the word that I have seen conservatives use again and again when describing what progressives actually hope to achieve, regarding human behavior.
The thing is, though, that I can't remember ever hearing or reading a progressive professing this belief. I don't think I have lived in a total conservative bubble and am therefore ignorant of many pronouncements from public figures on the left. I know where the left generally stands on abortion, gun control, taxation, global warming, and many other topics because I've seen, heard, or read about their speeches. So, how did I miss this widely accepted belief of the left on the perfectibility of mankind? Can anyone give me some examples of who on the left has made this claim?
Here is one thing I do know. If I listen to a progressive talk radio show, it doesn't take long before the host, a guest, or a caller asserts that Republicans or conservatives are almost universally white supremacists. This seems to be pretty well agreed upon among the passionate left. But I've known a lot of conservatives (and am one, depending on how you define "conservative") and sadly, a handful of white supremacists. There isn't that much overlap. Most of the white supremacists I've known were not great lovers of the Constitution or limited government. Not necessarily gung-ho free-market capitalists, either. Yet, many, many progressives take it for granted that conservative equals white supremacist.
Is that what happened on our side regarding the claim that most leftists believe in the perfectability of mankind? Is this something that conservatives repeatedly tell each other that leftists believe, with little evidence of said belief? Or do the leftists commonly say this but always just out of my earshot?
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Dear SuperGrok,
To what degree does the concept of man's perfectability underlie Marxist/Leftist/Progressive ideology? SG's answer (18 seconds; bolding in the original):
"To a foundational—indeed, near-core—degree. The concept of man's perfectability (the belief that human nature is not fixed or inherently limited but is instead malleable, improvable without bound through changes in environment, education, institutions, or social relations) is not a peripheral feature of Marxist, Leftist, or Progressive thought. It is the optimistic anthropological premise that makes their entire project of radical social transformation intelligible and morally urgent. Without it, the ideologies collapse into mere reformism or nihilism.
Historical and Philosophical Roots
The idea traces directly to Enlightenment perfectibilists (e.g., Condorcet, Godwin, and especially Rousseau's "noble savage" corrupted only by society). These thinkers rejected the older "constrained" view of man (flawed by original sin, passions, scarcity, or evolutionary psychology) in favor of an "unconstrained" one: man is born essentially good or blank, and defects are artifacts of bad structures. Fix the structures, and you remake the species. This is not incremental betterment; it is perfectibility—open-ended ascent toward a higher human type.Marxism inherits this directly and radicalizes it:
Broader Leftist/Progressive strains secularize and soften the same premise:
Why "Core" Rather Than Incidental?
Nuance and Limits
It is not totalizing. Some pragmatic Leftists (e.g., certain social democrats or New Deal liberals) treat perfectability as an aspirational horizon rather than an immediate blueprint. Orthodox Marxists sometimes emphasize deterministic historical stages over voluntarist remaking. And strands of the contemporary Left (e.g., certain identitarian or postmodern currents) flirt with anti-humanism or endless deconstruction without a clear telos. But these are deviations or tactical retreats; the master narrative—from 1789 through 1917 to 2020s equity activism—still rests on the premise that humanity's current form is a contingent, correctable error.In short, perfectability is not merely an influence; it is the anthropological fuel that turns policy disagreements into crusades. Remove the assumption that man can be perfected and the ideologies lose their messianic drive. Empirical reality (persistent inequalities despite interventions, the "revolt of the elites," the failure of every "new man" project) has not falsified it for believers—precisely because perfectibility is held as an article of faith, not a testable hypothesis."
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Following up on my previous comment, ...
Dear SuperGrok,
Provide examples amples of contemporary progressives/leftists who have made statements and/or written about the perfectability of man.
SG's answer:
"Contemporary progressives, leftists, and Marxists rarely use the archaic Enlightenment term "perfectability of man" verbatim (it sounds too 18th-century and risks sounding utopian in a post-20th-century-failure world). Instead, they frame the same idea through concepts like social construction, performativity, malleability, hackability, systemic transformation, or the emergence of better human capacities once oppressive structures are dismantled. The core belief persists: human traits, behaviors, identities, and limitations are not fixed by biology or "nature" but are largely products of environment, power, culture, or capitalism—and can therefore be radically improved (or transcended) through activism, policy, education, or technology.
Here are clear, documented examples from still-active or recently prominent figures (post-2000 writings/speeches, with direct or near-direct engagement):
These are not fringe voices; Butler, Kendi, Harari, Bregman, and Chomsky shape progressive academia, activism, media, and policy today (e.g., gender curricula, antiracism training, "build back better" utopianism, or tech-optimist leftism). The idea is usually implicit ("systemic change will transform us") rather than shouted as "perfectibility," because explicit utopian language invites mockery after the 20th century's failures. But the underlying anthropology—humans as products of environment/power, open to unbounded improvement—remains the engine driving calls for radical restructuring. Without it, the project reduces to modest reform."
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What I learned in my (very) conservative school curricula is that conservatives believe man is inherently corrupt, while the left believes that corruption comes from outside influences. Changing people's environment and improving their lives improves people's behavior. "Improves" is what I took away from that, not "perfects."
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Tom Sowell's A Conflict of Visions and his successor work The Vision of the Anointed do an outstanding job of first laying out the constrained / unconstrained vision frameworks, and then delving more deeply into the progressive unconstrained vision. While coming at the topic from the right, he cites many of the influential leftist thinkers who espouse the perfectibility of man.
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In other words, no, there are not any examples of modern Leftists claiming the "perfectibility" of mankind or that he can be made perfect.
I just saved the rest of you from a very long and tedious read.
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