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August 24, 2025 at 8:10 PM

Breaking the Deep State

Susan Quinn
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While people are arguing about the raid on John Bolton’s home and office, whether it is retribution or justified, I realized that something significant is being overlooked in this whole process:

The Deep State

Do people remember that early on, many of us chose Donald Trump to drain the swamp? To break through the wall of the Deep State? That we believed that only an outsider would not become entangled in the arms of the enemy?

I remember.

From the start, I admit that I didn’t like Donald Trump. I don’t much like him now. And I realize that he didn’t make much headway against the Deep State in his first term; they were too clever and devious and dodged his efforts.

But in his second term he has learned a great deal. He knows the players much better. He knows the members of Congress who truly care about the American people, and those who are more intent on keeping their seats at any cost. At times, he has to make compromises; there are representatives and senators who try to keep one foot in the swamp and one foot in the pool of the people. But the people who scream the loudest are most likely the ones who don’t much care about the citizens of this country, but mostly about themselves.

Don’t misunderstand: I think Donald Trump needs to be held accountable for his actions just like anyone else. But I give him a lot of leeway because he is fighting against gale wind forces.

And I know he loves this country.

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    Bob Thompson@BobThompson·1y

    I wouldn't use the same words you use to describe how I came to admire President Trump's work on behalf of the American people and the people of the world, but I think you and I are in the same place.

    Most individuals have shortcomings and for some that description is lacking because it comes up short (what a play on words, which is a big deal these days). Donald Trump has had past dealings or interactions with people across that entire spectrum and his actions today take those relationships and any future value they may hold into account. This makes attention to what he does, rather than what emerges in his public words every day, important.

    The Deep State embeds still operating today are just that, DEEP. Trump's administration now has control at the top of the White House, State Department and the intelligence components and can control official policy. That does not mean the total absence of the unofficial Deep State policies that will still be pushed by the deep embeds and the partners in Congress, the American and foreign general public, and foreign government official entities. I'm still trusting Trump.

    The fight is still ongoing.

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    Susan Quinn@SusanQuinn·1y
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    I wouldn’t use the same words you use to describe how I came to admire President Trump’s work on behalf of the American people and the people of the world, but I think you and I are in the same place.

    Most individuals have shortcomings and for some that description is lacking because it comes up short (what a play on words, which is a big deal these days). Donald Trump has had past dealings or interactions with people across that entire spectrum and his actions today take those relationships and any future value they may hold into account. This makes attention to what he does, rather than what emerges in his public words every day, important.

    The Deep State embeds still operating today are just that, DEEP. Trump’s administration now has control at the top of the White House, State Department and the intelligence components and can control official policy. That does not mean the total absence of the unofficial Deep State policies that will still be pushed by the deep embeds and the partners in Congress, the American and foreign general public, and foreign government official entities. I’m still trusting Trump.

    The fight is still ongoing.

    I don't see where we differ, Bob, unless you choose to overlook the things he says, and I have a harder time doing that. But as you say, I think we come to the same place. The Deep State is probably deeper and wider than we can even imagine, and I am so glad Trump is willing to continue to fight that fight.

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    mildlyo@mildlyo·1y

    I remember.

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    Susan Quinn@SusanQuinn·1y

    One thought that strikes me is that we expect perfection when we should be glad to celebrate those things that are going well. I'm a recovering perfectionist, and perfectionism is not a happy or productive place to live.

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    Kevin Schulte@KevinSchulte·1y
    Susan Quinn (View Post):

    Don’t misunderstand: I think Donald Trump needs to be held accountable for his actions just like anyone else. But I give him a lot of leeway because he is fighting against gale wind forces.

    I am double plus on this one . Mr. Queensbury has been Keelhauled and is now sleeping with the fishes .

    Susan Quinn (View Post):

    And I know he loves this country.

    Amen !

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