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February 24, 2025 at 3:25 PM

The US Must Pull Out of Germany/Europe

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It is abundantly clear that the US-NATO umbrella over Europe has achieved the complete infantilization of the Continent. Lacking the need to do anything serious in terms of core national interest (i.e., defense), Europe has entirely lost the plot.

There is no longer any justification for propping up Germany, or any nation that refuses to invest in its own national defense. Beyond that: the US should not be defending illiberal countries that arrest people for "mean tweets." If the US pulls out, Europe gets the very sharp shock that it needs if it is going to wake up, defend against Russia, reduce the Nanny State, and deport Muslims.

Truly: the US should leave Europe - for its own good.

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    Bob Thompson@BobThompson·1y
    Yes! How long before the isolationist meme shows up in the comments?
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    Zafar@Zafar·1y

    According to Lord Ismay:

    The purpose of the NATO alliance is "to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down”.

    Hard enough with the Americans in. Extremely unlikely with them out.

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    EODmom@EODmom·1y
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Yes! How long before the isolationist meme shows up in the comments?

    They can’t have it both ways: rail against imperialist colonialism and demand US protect the rest of the world from every new threat. In perpetuity.
    No individual, town, state or country is well served by allowing it to never be responsible for its own well being, much less its own survival.

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    Zafar (View Comment):

    According to Lord Ismay:

    The purpose of the NATO alliance is “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down”.

    Hard enough with the Americans in. Extremely unlikely with them out.

    Too bad, but that's Europe's problem, not the US's. Europe has the resources it needs. It should not be sucking down ours.

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    Zafar@Zafar·1y
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    According to Lord Ismay:

    The purpose of the NATO alliance is “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down”.

    Hard enough with the Americans in. Extremely unlikely with them out.

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Too bad, but that’s Europe’s problem, not the US’s. Europe has the resources it needs. It should not be sucking down ours.

    It is in the US’ interests to keep the Russians out. Germany would be better off buying cheap Russian energy.

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