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January 10, 2024 at 9:01 AM

What’s the Beef with Nikki Haley?

Susan Quinn
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Now before you go on the attack about Nikki Haley, let me state my position. My first choice for the Republican candidate was Ron DeSantis; his prospects look pretty dismal at the moment. And our member @Rodin has pretty much persuaded me that if Trump gets the Republican nomination, I’ll vote for him. But I’m undecided about the Republican primary.

I saw Nikki Haley interviewed by Bret Baer and Martha McCallum on Fox News last night. I showed up with an open mind, knowing that people say she’s not conservative enough. I also realize that some believe that she is from the deep state; I’m not convinced. But there were a number of things she said that got my attention.

First, they challenged her to respond to attacks from DeSantis; she corrected her record every time, saying that he had misstated what she’d said and explained how her words were taken out of context. In one case, she could quote her original statement and the two interviewers had that statement in front of them.

Second, she’s for term limits and has a way to empower the people, rather than Congress, to make a change in the limits. (Whether it’s possible, I don’t know.) In many policy decisions and their implementation, she wants to send power and decision-making back to the states. She supported a 15-week ban on abortion, because Congress won’t vote for a six-week ban in these times. Her position on border security is strong:

My plan calls for implementing a national E-Verify program, defunding sanctuary cities, stopping handouts to illegal immigrants, and firing Biden's new IRS agents and hiring 25,000 new Border Patrol and ICE agents."

Her plan would also restore the ‘Remain-in-Mexico’ policy -- which kept migrants in Mexico while their immigration hearings proceeded, instead of releasing them into the U.S. Republicans have credited that policy with reducing the pull factors which drew migrants north.

I’m aware that the current E-Verify program works poorly and would need to be upgraded.

She responded well, I thought, to questions about Ukraine:

When asked about national security policies and how she will put America first by an audience member, Haley said, ‘It's a great question. And, you know, for anybody that questions why we should care about Ukraine, that's a legitimate question for you to ask.’

She went on, ‘The problem is no one is giving you the answer. And I blame Biden for all of that. He should always tell Americans why we're doing what we're doing, the reason we care about Ukraine. And I'll be the first one to say I don't think we should give any country friend or foe cash because you can't follow it. You can't hold it accountable. I don't think we need to put troops on the ground in Ukraine.’

If you’re interested, you can read the article at Fox News that discusses most of the issues .

So, convince me: why shouldn’t I seriously consider voting for Nikki Haley in the Republican primary, if not the general election, without having to hold my nose?

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    EJHill@EJHill·2y

    Based on her negative spending on DeSantis, I don't think Haley was ever running for anything other than the #2 spot on the ballot.

    She loves her corporate money. When DeSantis was in his battle with Disney her response was, "Hey, Bob, come to South Carolina." She loves cheap labor and open borders. And speaking of South Carolina, how does one serve as the chief executive to the state where Ft. Sumter is located and be so clueless about the Civil War?

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    Susan Quinn@SusanQuinn·2y
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Based on her negative spending on DeSantis, I don’t think Haley was ever running for anything other than the #2 spot on the ballot.

    She loves her corporate money. When DeSantis was in his battle with Disney her response was, “Hey, Bob, come to South Carolina.” She loves cheap labor and open borders. And speaking of South Carolina, how does one serve as the chief executive to the state where Ft. Sumter is located and be so clueless about the Civil War?

    Evidence, EJ? If corporations are donating, what's the problem? My guess would be that the comment to Disney was a throw-away line. Why do you say she loves cheap labor and open borders? She said she passed some of the strictest legislation against illegals and Obama went after her--and she's talking about securing the borders. The Civil War comment was stupid--she said she thought that the slaves were a given.

    Sorry, not convinced.

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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Why do you say she loves cheap labor and open borders?

    Because her proposal says no numeric limits. She wants to outsource immigration to employers. If someone is willing to sponsor an unlimited amount of Green Cards, they get their unlimited number of Green Cards. They don't even have to prove they are unable to attract native labor.

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    My guess would be that the comment to Disney was a throw-away line.

    Horse hockey. If you're willing to throw a fellow Republican Governor under the bus for money, especially in the culture war with Disney, you have no conservative principles.

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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    My guess would be that the comment to Disney was a throw-away line.

    EJHill (View Comment):

    Horse hockey. If you’re willing to throw a fellow Republican Governor under the bus for money, especially in the culture war with Disney, you have no conservative principles.

    And just how did she throw DeSantis under the bus?

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    MWD B612 "Dawg"@danok1·2y

    Susan, my advice is to wait and see who's left when the FL primary takes place.

    But as to convincing you that Haley ain't all that, remember that when RDS took on Disney, she tried to convince the Mouse to set up shop in South Carolina. She's also neutral at best, in favor of at worst, on the whole transsexual issue, including having males compete against females.

    I didn't watch the debate, but I note this in your post:

    Susan Quinn (View Post):
    Second, she’s for term limits and has a way to empower the people, rather than Congress, to make a change in the limits. (Whether it’s possible, I don’t know.)

    It's well known that implementing term limits on Federal elective offices requires an amendment to the Constitution. I suspect that she's talking about an Article V Amendment Convention of States instead of Congress originating the required Amendment. Can you confirm that? Is that when she said, or was she vague about how "the people" would be empowered?

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