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We can't let Iran get a nuke.
Their objective is to have tons of missiles to protect their nuke program.
They don't care about their own people.
Steve Yates said the most important thing: "you break it you bought it" doesn't apply. Iran has been threatening everyone for 50 years. Their own people can't do anything about it. Cover the whole thing with fuel- air explosives enough to stop them and then invade. That's the only way you can make your weapons get to the good Iranians.
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I've never taken to the "you break it you bought it" idea. "If you don't want something broken, don't provoke attack because we'll break all your stuff and leave you much worse off," does better as a detriment in the long run, especially if paired with "and we'll open channels to allow for the free flow of arms to whichever of your political opponents we hate worse." If we cripple the state, the innocent population is ideally saved from poverty, but there are international organizations we fund to do that sort of thing. Our choice can't be to accept being threatened with nuclear annihilation—or even to accept some more mundane threat from drugs over the borders or state sponsored attacks on our industry—or adopt an entirely new welfare population.
If we can help after a military conflict, we should. But our ability to do that should not be a consideration on whether or not to defend ourselves.
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The stated objective, as I understand it, was to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. I support that goal whole heartedly. But that goal remains elusive. The Iranian's nuclear ambitions remain. Trump keeps asserting that any day they'll make a deal. Yet no deal appears. That means the goal has yet to be achieved. And Trump emerged from midterms a very lame duck. From an Iranian bunker, this looks like a pretty good outcome.
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We lost the messaging, not the war. Trump's biggest mistake may be not working harder to explain the situation last February and since. Rubio is tremendous at explaining Iran's attempt to surreptitiously build a monstrous inventory of ballistic missiles and drones that would have enabled them to hold the world hostage and drive up the price of oil permanently. I would have loved to see the President task Rubio with giving our electorate a constant barrage of reasons for the kinetic action of the past eight months. Instead of blaming the war for this past election, I would love to hear J.D. Vance explain why the diplomacy that he lead, failed so miserably.
From Grok:
Regular has fallen roughly 36 cents over the past month and is down about 16 cents in the last week.
Diesel remains elevated (still near its recent highs) and is about $2.16 more per gallon than regular.
Prices vary widely by state (e.g., lower in the South/Texas, much higher in California, Hawaii, and the West Coast).
Sources: AAA Fuel Prices (daily national average) and GasBuddy (station-reported data). EIA weekly averages lag slightly and were around $4.15 (regular) / $6.29 (diesel) for the week of November 2.
The price of gas no longer appears to be about the Iranian war, if it ever was.
What is done cannot be undone, but with determination and unity on our side, it can be overcome. This is not even close to the worst mid-term drubbing a party in power has received.
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How lame he is will be determined. Some of it will depend on his own party. The Republicans do not have a history of being good fighters, so Trump will have his hands full.
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