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It appears that President Trump (and, eventually, Kash) intends to fire all FBI agents who had any involvement in investigating or arresting J6 protestors.
It would seem the logic or the justification for this purge parallels the very justified prosecution of prison guards during the Holocaust. "Just following orders" is not a defense.
I do not agree. What happened on J6 was atrocious. (For the record, I've spoken privately with friends about going to DC to be part of a "rally and peaceful protest". We didn't go.) I get that most of the people on J6 were peaceful. But there were others that were horrible and very destructive. I am convinced that the gubment infiltrated and instigated (and likely were some of the worst offenders) on that dreadful day.
So, back to the FBI: If an agent received a case file and was told that these people are suspected of rioting, and decides to look them up, find them, arrest them, ins't he justified in doing so? That is different from the prosecutors who amped up charges, held prisoners in deplorable conditions for years, and threatened family members. Would an agent who identified a J6er know the full extent of that person's involvement when he executed an arrest? Was it a peaceful parader or a window-smashing jerk? Either way, isn't it justifiable for that person to get arrested by the FBI?
Were there Feds that overplayed their hands, showing up with SWAT teams to arrest grannies? Yeah, they need to be fired.
All of them?
How do you sort this out?
That said, firing FBI agents is not the same as prosecuting and putting those agents in jail for abuse of power.
My question is: What are your thoughts on the wholesale firing of all agents who had any role in the investigations and arrests of J6ers?
My initial reaction to the announcements of these firings was pretty glib and gleeful. Heck, yeah!
I am wondering if this requires more nuance and discretion...
In an aside, the entire Florida-based team that performed the Melania panty raid has allegedly been fired and walked out of their offices.
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I would say so. Did they violate the law? Were they using governmental resources inappropriately? If so, maybe they need to go (to jail). Did they simply make an arrest on an outstanding warrant? Maybe they are good agents.
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My thoughts on this are quite similar to yours.
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Miranda Devine with some details:
"At FBI headquarters at midday Thursday, while TVs in most offices were tuned to the Senate confirmation hearing of incoming FBI Director Kash Patel, all six of the FBI’s most senior executives were marched out of the building on the orders of acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove, one of Trump’s former lawyers.
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On Friday, multiple heads of FBI field offices across the country also were forced onto leave, including in Washington, DC, and Miami, which conducted the Mar-a-Lago raid. Federal prosecutors involved in the Trump and J6 cases also reportedly were suspended.
That gave them the weekend to decide whether to accept the administration’s offer to federal employees of “deferred resignations” with eight months’ pay."
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I was not aware the Trump Admin intends on firing "all" FBI personnel involved in the J6 investigations.
It seems more likely it will be an evaluation of just how involved the FBI personnel were in pursuing the J6 investigations, and this would most likely result in dismissing upper level FBI personnel who directed the level and scope of the FBI J6 investigations.
And we focus on the FBI personnel when I would assume much of the direction came from the Garland DOJ.
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I think your approach makes sense. For the instigators in the FBI knew what they were doing, invite them to leave. But for those who acted on warrants and didn't know the insidious nature of them, they shouldn't be forced to leave.
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