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April 3, 2025 at 4:02 PM

Maybe Not So Dead

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I see lots of stories in the rightosphere telling us Democrats are in dire straits and committing electoral suicide by doubling down on unpopular positions. This seems at odds with the observation that the GOP House majority hangs by a thread and Democrats are currently winning off-year state and local elections.

If politics were about making sense, nobody would espouse communism nor vote for posturing loons and thieves.

A scary possibility is that after their 2024 debacle, Democrats may feel relieved that they no longer have to pretend to be committed to limited government, honor, sanity or respect for the values and best interests of the normal majority. Why else allow commie buffoons on the Hill to become de facto leaders and spokespersons?

The Soviets failed to crush Solidarnosc and did not control appetites for Western goods and privileges, and the USSR collapsed. In contrast, the Chinese Communists sent tanks into Tiananmen Square and dispatched the army all over the country to crush dissent, and they are still in power. If Democrats were to pretend that they really cared about the border, voting integrity, color-blind opportunity, constitutionally protected liberty, fiscal sanity and transparent government, then their entire edifice would fall as surely as did the Berlin Wall. Trump and DOGE have made them more aware of that vulnerability than ever.

European leftists know they are intellectually and morally bankrupt and are thus reduced to silencing and jailing critics. That would be happening here right now but for Trump’s incredible resilience.

Wisconsin will enforce electoral cheating. It will be gerrymandered to the fullest extent possible. They will demonize the opposition in whatever terms and to whatever extent necessary to protect the lie that they represent anything other than raw power. They will not be outliers among blue and purple states in that regard.

If economic shocks from tariffs, international turmoil, or some other events cause economic setbacks that permit the Democrats to retake the House in 2026, then all legislative and fiscal progress will end. They used Russiagate and COVID to crush out any semblance of good news during the first Trump administration — and it worked. The MSM, the tenured left, the deep state, the grifter class and the hordes of troubled suckers and zombies mobilized under the rubric of identity politics will soon come at us as surely and as fiercely as blackflies and midges in a Canadian spring. Just as certainly, those two million Biden-issued illegal alien SSNs will be turned into mail-in ballots before DOGE can cut finally them off.

It was easy to get off the couch to reject Biden and his idiot replacement. But voting to protect and affirm existing good policies seems to be hard for many people, and that inertia may prove to be fatal. The outcome of 2026 and 2028 could either secure the foundations of a golden age for the USA and the entire West or let 2024 be just a forgotten speed bump on the road to a post-constitutional, unfree, fiscally gutted America.

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    Ekosj@Ekosj·1y
    Old Bathos (View Post):
    The outcome of 2026 and 2028 could either secure the foundations of a golden age for the USA and the entire West or let 2024 be just a forgotten speed bump on the road to a post-constitutional, unfree, fiscally gutted America.

    And without Trump himself on the ballot, recent history suggests it will not go well. There is a substantial "Only Trump" vote out there and one way or another, they need to be brought into the larger Republican tent. Maybe the Republican tent needs to change its shape to cover them. Maybe the "Only Trumpers" need to need to be woo'ed inside. Either way ... without EVERYONE who voted for Trump in 2024 things look grim.

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    Remember the long thread we had after the 2024 election about whether or not Trump had a "mandate?' I tried to point out that votes are both affirmative and negative and that most politicians' inability to tell the difference is what gets them in trouble.

    Just as Biden got himself in trouble by believing he was FDR 3.0, Trump & Co. may be overreaching with some of their anti-judge rhetoric and their lack of communication in respect to what the administration is doing and how they're doing it.

    MAGA actually showed up yesterday in Wisconsin. The losing candidate got almost 232,000 more votes than the last GOP candidate for that race. But the swing voters do what they are want to do - swing. The voter ID amendment passed overwhelmingly. And yet, the issue of ballot drop-boxes in 2020 did not save the MAGA candidate.

    Swing voters sent a message yesterday, the question is, "Is anyone listening?"

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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Remember the long thread we had after the 2024 election about whether or not Trump had a “mandate?’ I tried to point out that votes are both affirmative and negative and that most politicians’ inability to tell the difference is what gets them in trouble.

    Just as Biden got himself in trouble by believing he was FDR 3.0, Trump & Co. may be overreaching with some of their anti-judge rhetoric and their lack of communication in respect to what the administration is doing and how they’re doing it.

    MAGA actually showed up yesterday in Wisconsin. The losing candidate got almost 232,000 more votes than the last GOP candidate for that race. But the swing voters do what they are want to do – swing. The voter ID amendment passed overwhelmingly. And yet, the issue of ballot drop-boxes in 2020 did not save the MAGA candidate.

    Swing voters sent a message yesterday, the question is, “Is anyone listening?”

    I disagree. MAGA stayed home. 6 short months ago Trump got 1.6 Million votes. Yesterday, the Trump-supported candidate garnered only about 1 Million and the Progressive won with 1.2 Million. 600,000 thousand Trump voters sat on their hands and it cost us.

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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Just as Biden got himself in trouble by believing he was FDR 3.0, Trump & Co. may be overreaching with some of their anti-judge rhetoric and their lack of communication in respect to what the administration is doing and how they’re doing it.

    I don't think the battles with judges will have much electoral sway. Voters either think that every dubious injunction is "saving our democracy" or just another reason why the establishment needs to be struck down and most don't care.

    You are spot on that communication is critical. How many people know any of the details of the horrific misuse and fraud-adjacent spending DOGE has uncovered versus the number convinced that Elon is gutting social security to send the money to the rich in tax cuts?

    This crop of GOP leaders is far better at not deferring to the gotcha journalism of making GOP apologize for every alleged offense and setting the terms of the dialog. But neutralizing that only makes it a tie. They have not yet forced the media to accept their terms for defining the issues.

    If you get your news from just the headlines and first paragraphs of Yahoo and Google news blurbs, you would be told that an innocent family man was wrongly deported (actually a 10-year gang affiliation and rap sheet) that the GOP is deserting Trump (not a flicker of change in approval ratings) and that the courts think that every act by the entire administration is illegal. The negative drumbeat will continue shamelessly barring some change in tactics or events.

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    EJHill (View Comment):

    Remember the long thread we had after the 2024 election about whether or not Trump had a “mandate?’ I tried to point out that votes are both affirmative and negative and that most politicians’ inability to tell the difference is what gets them in trouble.

    Just as Biden got himself in trouble by believing he was FDR 3.0, Trump & Co. may be overreaching with some of their anti-judge rhetoric and their lack of communication in respect to what the administration is doing and how they’re doing it.

    MAGA actually showed up yesterday in Wisconsin. The losing candidate got almost 232,000 more votes than the last GOP candidate for that race. But the swing voters do what they are want to do – swing. The voter ID amendment passed overwhelmingly. And yet, the issue of ballot drop-boxes in 2020 did not save the MAGA candidate.

    Swing voters sent a message yesterday, the question is, “Is anyone listening?”

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    I disagree. MAGA stayed home. 6 short months ago Trump got 1.6 Million votes. Yesterday, the Trump-supported candidate garnered only about 1 Million and the Progressive won with 1.2 Million. 600,000 thousand Trump voters sat on their hands and it cost us.

    Trump did very well with low propensity voters in 2024. These are voters who don't vote in primaries and mid terms. He did a great job of getting these voters to the polls in 2024 but the pool of dependable Republican voters who vote in every election has shrunk.

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