Let’s Negotiate with Terrorists

I half-heard a radio report that there were negotiations between the US and Hamas that Israel was not privy to. I haven't looked it up, as I don't think I have enough info. Is that concerning this nonsense, or is this fresh nonsense?

Percival (View Comment):

I half-heard a radio report that there were negotiations between the US and Hamas that Israel was not privy to. I haven’t looked it up, as I don’t think I have enough info. Is that concerning this nonsense, or is this fresh nonsense?

To my knowledge, they haven't begun negotiations; they've just put out the idea. Let's hope that's the end of it.

Here is one tiny piece of the puzzle as to why many Americans, who are not pro-Hamas, but also can no longer pro-Israel, are so critical of Israel:

Last week the survivors of The USS Liberty "celebrated" the 57th anniversary of their naval ship being deliberately attacked by the IDF.

For two hours, the service people were strafed, napalmed, and torpedoes.

The Israel Intel people had enough "goods" on LBJ that as president, he quashed most mentions of this horrendous deliberate attack that normally would have occurred after such a catastrophic military action against the USA.

Only in the past 15 years has it been possible for crew men to come forward. Documentaries have been made about the entire incident and we now know:

1: Prior to the attack, the men who were off duty were sunbathing on the deck. They witnessed Israeli planes flying over them, as they saw the markings on those planes.

2: Since planes flew over several times, sometimes the Americans waved at the Israelis.

3: A short time later, unmarked planes flew overhead and this time the attack was on.

4: One IDF member radioed in "This is an American ship. I should not be attacking it."
He was told by the higher ups to follow orders.

5: For two hours, the people aboard the Liberty were strafed. They were napalmed. A torpedo was launched by an Israeli ship and it hit the Liberty.

6. If an American military ship had not intervened, we now know the Liberty was to be sunk and then the "incident" would be reported by Israeli intel with statements that the Egyptians had attacked our naval vessel.

7. So the overall plan was to slaughter their "ally's" service people in order to bring America into their side of the 7 day war.

Combine the above with so many other videos that show how the hard liners in Israel have had their way since the early 1980's, and then the attitudes of many people here in the USA begin to change. The hard liners in Israel have been able to strengthen their hand to the extent that Netanyahu himself created Hamas, in much the same way the the USA created Al Queda.

In the 1980's, we had no internet to inform us of the deep dark secrets concerning how much control that Israel has held over the USA. But that is no longer the case.

Now add in a recent Tucker Carlson interview with Congressman Thomas Massie and more changes in attitude will occur. Massie reported on how every Republican in Congress, with the exception of himself, now has an "AIPAC handler." Why is that allowed?

Silly me - these days if an outfit announces they have a 100 million dollar slush fund to throw the way of candidates for office who do their bidding, why wouldn't it be allowed, right?

Such situations also keep arising because for anyone questioning anything with regards to Israel, the convenient label of "anti-semite" is immediately utilized.

Of course the definition is changing - where being an "anti-semite" once meant that some individual hated Jews, it now means that the person - even a Jewish person - is someone that the Zionists want, and need, to have censored.

CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

The hard liners in Israel have been able to strengthen their hand to the extent that Netanyahu himself created Hamas, in much the same way the the USA created Al Queda.

You get the Conspiracy Medal of the Day, CarolJoy. Netanyahu created Hamas? Seriously?

Susan Quinn (View Post):

Taking this step would be a slap in the face of Netanyahu and includes the denigration of our trusted ally

Susan Quinn (View Post):

What can the U.S. offer Hamas that would be meaningful to them?

Democrats don't care about Hamas, or the Palestinians, or blacks, or gays, or any other victim group. I don't think there's malice - just a lack of interest and a lack of empathy.

Democrats do care about Israel, though. They hate Israel and they hate Jews.

If you disagree with my assertions, I would point out that if they actually didn't care about Palestinians, and if they actually did hate Jews, what would the Democrats do? They would do everything that they have already done. It's circumstantial evidence, I know. But it's overwhelming circumstantial evidence. Added to their rhetoric, I don't see how either assertion can be seriously disputed.

So Biden's proposal to Hamas is not stupid. It makes perfect sense. From the standpoint of Democrats.

It will hurt Israel. Who cares what it does for Hamas - whatever. It makes perfect sense. For Democrats.

As usual, the interests of Democrats do not align with the interests of America or the interests of good in the world.