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March 24, 2024 at 8:01 AM

Quote of the Day - Free Speech

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Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage. – Winston Churchill

Was Winston Churchill a time traveler? Because this quote is more certainly true today than it was during Churchill's lifetime. This week, no less than a Supreme Court Justice stated in oral arguments, "My biggest concern is that your view has the First Amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways."

Well, yes, Justice, that's the point of the First Amendment. It exists to hamstring government control of ideas. That is its feature. It is not a bug.

We now have concerted campaigns by the left to quash disinformation. Of course, disinformation is defined as anything not in agreement with the catechisms of the left. They can say whatever they like, however outrageous, while anything in disagreement with them is disinformation and must be controlled. The concept is Fascist and Stalinist.

In Scotland J. K. Rowlings has made free speech her hill to die on. Following Thoreau's principles of civil disobedience, she is repeatedly flouting a Scots law that makes "misgendering" a crime. She is defying the Scots government to arrest her after it takes effect on April 1st by publicly stating a truth: sex is assigned at birth and cannot be changed by proclamation. I disagree with most of her politics (although I would never challenge her right to state her beliefs - even those I disagree with), but I admire her stand in defense of truth and free speech.

When I was much younger, I was much less of a free speech absolutist. I was on a message board (1980s dial-up modems) a friend was running. One participant was telling egregious lies on it. I urged my friend to kick him off. His response was to refuse. The solution for bad speech, he told me, is more speech, not censorship. If he is lying, call him out. Point out his lies. But don't silence him. Silencing always makes others wonder what you have to hide, why ideas he is sharing cannot be spoken aloud. You will empower him.

So it proved. This fraud was active on several message boards. The ones that banned him made his circle of believers grow. The ones that allowed him to stay, but mocked him, caused his influence to wane. My friend (who was older than me) proved correct. I have remembered that ever since.

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    The Scarecrow@TheScarecrow·2y

    You are totally on the right track here.

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    Amen

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    JoelB@JoelB·2y

    Seawriter: In Scotland J. K. Rowlings has made free speech her hill to die on. Following Thoreau’s principles of civil disobedience she is repeatedly flouting a Scots law that makes “misgendering” a crime. She is defying the Scots government to arrest her after it takes effect on April 1st by publicly stating a truth: sex is assigned at birth and cannot be changed by proclamation.

    A minor quibble:

    Actually I think that we are giving away a little to the left when we say sex is assigned at birth. It is made an integral part of us at conception when the chromosomes come together. It is part of every cell. It is recognizable by ultrasound and amniocentesis long before birth.

    If sex is not assigned until birth then one might imply that an unborn child is not yet human.

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    Percival@Percival·2y
    Seawriter (View Post):
    Was Winston Churchill a time traveler? Because this quote is more certainly true today than it was during Churchill’s lifetime.

    I'll pick a nit there. Free speech has always been a problem to people who can't tolerate some opposing view. Elijah Lovejoy ran a series of newspapers in St. Louis and later in Alton, Illinois that advocated for Abolition. This was enormously unpopular in slace-holding Missouri and not universally lauded in Alton, despite Illinois being ostensibly a free state. A mob killed Lovejoy in 1837, as he attempted to defend his fourth printing press. It was Lovejoy's death that caused John Brown to publically announce his determination to dedicate his life to ending slavery.

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    Gary McVey@GaryMcVey·2y

    "some people’s idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage".

    Just between us, it's not as if we're absolutely pure on that one either. I've seen a few people quit Ricochet because they seemed shocked that someone else disagrees with them.

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