Get the Ricochet app
Ricochet will work fine in a browser on your mobile devices, but for the best experience please download our app.

3 Whisky Happy Hour
The Ricochet Podcast
GLoP Culture
Beyond the Polls with Henry Olsen
Gray Matters
Daily Signal
The Erick Erickson Show
Giving Ventures
Mom Wars
3 Martini Lunch
Chicks on The Right
Parsing Immigration Policy
Federalist Radio Hour
What the Hell Is Going On
Freedom to Learn
The Learning Curve
The Conservative Woman’s Guide
Heritage Explains
Not Dead Yet
Who Funds that?
The Radio Free Hillsdale Hour
The Glenn Show
Call Me Back - with Dan Senor
Hillsdale Dialogues
Law Talk with Epstein, Yoo & Cooke
The Libertarian
The Report Card with Nat Malkus
The Kevin Roberts Show with Larry O’Connor
The American Idea
Madison’s Notes
Conservative Crossroads with Henry Olsen
The Back of the Book
Martini Shot
The Dave Carter Show
The Powerline Show
In Dissent
Heard at Heritage
Smart Girl Politics
James Lileks’ The Diner
Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture
JobMakers
One on One with Robert Doar
Homeschooling Journeys with Curious MikeRicochet will work fine in a browser on your mobile devices, but for the best experience please download our app.
Tired of the toxicity of social media? Why not join Ricochet for just $5/month? Think of it as an online bar. Come in, have a drink, hang out, say whatever you want. But don’t badger, bully, or berate the other drinkers. That's our only rule.
The Biden family met at Camp David on Sunday, 30 June, to discuss what to do about the aftermath of the debate. That evening it was leaked that the family had decided unanimously that Joe would continue as the nominee. It was unlikely that Jill was ever going to give up her chance at four more years of power.
Jim Clyburn, who rallied South Carolina for Joe in 2020 and thus a key Biden supporter, said that the problem was that Joe was overprepared!
Fancy Nancy Pelosi said that it is actually Trump who has dementia.
The Biden/Harris campaign announced that Joe would absolutely continue as the nominee. Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom both added their support.
In addition to Jill's lust for power, there are several reasons why there will be no change in Joe as nominee. First, as many have observed, the Democratic Party hates Kamala and thinks she would be more likely to lose to Trump. And it would be hard to remove Kamala.
Second, Joe controls 99% of the delegates to the convention. They are bound to vote for him on the first ballot unless Joe withdraws or 2/3 of the delegates vote to change the rules at the convention.
Third, according to campaign finance law, all the money raised by the Biden/Harris campaign can only be used for Biden's or Harris's election. If the Democrats nominate someone other than Biden or Harris for president, that person would have to start over on fundraising. The campaign had raised $155 million by March 2024 (not sure if that is total receipts or cash on hand), so that big pot of money would be useless unless either Biden or Harris is the nominee.
But the biggest reason is that an open convention would open a civil war in the party. The Democratic party is a collection of interest groups, and their disputes would suddenly have to be resolved in short order to pick a candidate. Imagine the demonstrations in Chicago at the convention if the nomination were actually on the line. Bernie and the Squad, Antifa, the gender confused, the pro-terrorist Hamas lovers, and many more would be out in force.
Immediately after the debate, it was the pundits and congressional delegations calling for Joe's ouster. The pundits realized that they had been caught praising the emperor's gorgeous new threads when he was actually naked. And the congressional delegations are worried about a wipeout in the fall if Joe is at the head of the ticket. But they have limited power to force change when Joe and Jill are determined to stay in. With the party leadership rallying around Joe, they will have to come around to supporting Joe or at least mute their despair.
As long as Joe is not dead or comatose by November, he will be the nominee. Get your popcorn ready.
This post was promoted to the Main Feed at the recommendation of Ricochet's members.
Discussion (50)
To read this bio, please join Ricochet.
I would say that the least popular between Joe and Kamala, is whichever the voters saw most recently.
CHARTER MEMBER
To read this bio, please join Ricochet.
NBC News: Biden's family urges him to 'keep fighting' as donors look for alternatives
Quote:
As top Democrats offered a public show of support for President Joe Biden throughout the weekend, his advisers worked privately Sunday to push back against suggestions that he step aside, with his campaign manager describing the mechanics of replacing him on the ticket as messy and impractical.
During a tense call with a group of about 40 of Biden’s top financial backers, campaign manager Julie Chavez Rodriguez laid out what could and could not be done with the campaign’s infrastructure if Biden were to step aside while emphasizing throughout the call that he had no intention of doing so.
Most of the campaign’s significant war chest would fall to Vice President Kamala Harris, Chavez Rodriguez said, according to two people familiar with the discussion. Only a smaller pool of money would be kept by the Democratic National Committee.
As several donors posited what a participant derisively referred to as fanciful “West Wing”-type scenarios for replacing Biden, Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., who joined for part of the call, emphasized that the process would be “messy” and predicted that Harris would ultimately end up as the nominee.
Sunday’s call was just one of a series of similar conversations top Biden advisers and campaign leaders have been holding with Democratic officials and donors after Biden’s halting debate performance rattled the party elite.
The conversation was among the more candid the campaign has held with a larger group in recent days, wading into the delicate question of exactly who might succeed Biden if he were to step aside.
Jen O'Malley Dillon, the chair of the Biden campaign, is also set to hold a call with a larger group of donors Monday night, according to two sources familiar with the plans.
Meanwhile, Biden’s family — the people who have most influence on him — met and discussed the future of his campaign during a long-planned gathering at Camp David, Maryland, NBC News first reported.
The message from Biden’s children and grandchildren, together for a photo shoot Sunday with famed photographer Annie Leibovitz, was to “keep fighting,” said two sources familiar with the discussions.
In recent days, some of Biden’s family members have expressed deep frustration with the aides and advisers responsible for preparing him for the debate, which carried over into conversations over the weekend, multiple sources said. A senior Biden adviser called such suggestions false, while a campaign spokesperson said Biden still has confidence in his most senior staffers.
“The aides who prepped the President have been with him for years, often decades, seeing him through victories and challenges. He maintains strong confidence in them,” Biden campaign spokesman Kevin Munoz said in a statement.
The campaign’s public posture Sunday was to draw attention to the positive, or at least neutral, response that voters and grassroots supporters have had to Biden’s first debate against former President Donald Trump.
“Every time Donald Trump opened his mouth, those dials dropped. They just absolutely plummeted,” Biden campaign pollster Molly Murphy said on MSNBC, referring to live panels the campaign conducted Thursday. “[Voters] felt like the president came across as someone who cares about middle- and working-class Americans, and when compared to Trump he came across as more presidential, more likable, more truthful.”
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., said in another MSNBC interview: “It certainly was a setback. But of course I believe a setback is nothing more than a setup for a comeback.”
During the call with donors, Chavez Rodriguez noted that the campaign has raised $33 million since the debate and even received hundreds of new applications from people wanting to join the campaign.
Coons also made a “fiery” case for Biden, pointing to his performance during recent international gatherings and his campaign rally in North Carolina on Friday to say there’s no evidence that Thursday’s debate was anything other than a bad night.
One participant said that many on the call were still firmly behind Biden but that “a lot of the participants are frightened.”
“There were some tough comments from those on the call. Some were upset that they are just hearing campaign talking points,” the participant said, adding that some donors even asked about having their contributions refunded.
Another senior Democratic official who has spoken directly with Biden and members of his campaign team said he has been reassured about Biden’s staying in the race and characterized his team’s posture as “powering through.”
But he also said he has had a lot of “one-off texts and conversations” with his peers and predicted the next two weeks would be critical.
“We’ll have polls and we’ll have a money count. If they’re good, it leans that he [remains in the race]. And if it’s not, all bets are off,” the official said. It will be “decided on data more than emotion. It’s too early to make the call.”
CHARTER MEMBER
To read this bio, please join Ricochet.
To read this bio, please join Ricochet.
Joe staying in is the best news for Trump, no?
CHARTER MEMBER
To read this bio, please join Ricochet.
Arguably, any option is good for Trump.
You're seeing five of 50 comments. Sign in, or join for just $5 per month, to read them all and add your own.