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Hang in There, Joe!
The implosion of the lies concerning Biden’s fitness for office has been a treat. The longer the struggle to oust him continues, the better. The convention is in 32 days. A divided party with a damaged Biden as the nominee would be a gift to America, but that is no certainty. He is supposed to resign this weekend, according to some lefty outlets, but Dr. Jill will likely not permit calls or meetings until he recovers from COVID.
Go down swinging, Joe! Drag it out. The family finances and those of many hangers-ons are at stake!
The MSM is under the illusion that removing Biden and inserting their preferred candidate is easily done. They talk as if Democratic Party delegates all uniformly want the good of the party and to implement/impose/preserve the sheer wonderfulness of elite sensibilities. In reality, the convention crowd includes professional politicians, grifters, de facto communist ideologues, sexual deviant militants, union bosses, radical enviros, etc. — all of whom want something. A strong leader can keep them in line/at bay. A vacuum at the top guarantees chaos. It will get weird.
When the going gets weird, the weird turns pro. –Hunter S. Thompson
In a matter of four weeks or less, all those Democrats who stood down to clear the path for Joe (Newsome, Whitmer, etc.) will arrive at the convention with no delegates, no organization, no convention floor muscle, no cash, and a tiny window within which to make promises and build political capital. The veto power of the hard left will be greatly magnified. Demands about Israel, racial quotas, no fossil fuels, open borders, high taxes, free health care…. The political center has no chance of survival in that environment.
If it becomes clear to delegates that the inevitable nominee is going to lose (e.g., Goldwater, McGovern, Mondale), the concern shifts to what part of future party control will be available. In the short term, what can safe, deep blue officeholders squeeze from the rest? So deals to support an inevitable loser are not off the table.
Biden needs 1,968 delegates for the nomination. Right now, he has all but 7 of the 3,903 already pledged delegates (with another 30 out there somewhere). Add in the super delegates (769) working their state delegations, and the cacophony of an open pre-convention mass phone exchange could presage a true circus at the convention.
Sheer inertia and fear of the unknown seem to indicate that either Biden slouches to the nomination or that they suck it up and nominate Kamala. A female VP choice for the first all-girl ticket could reopen the gender gap favorably enough for Dems to save some suburban House seats and save some in the Senate, but the majority sentient demographic will not elect Harris.
Fight, Joe! You have earned it. Don’t let those ungrateful SOBs take you down…
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Appreciate the Thompson quote.
Just like Alexander the Great, without Uncle Joe at the top, the DNC will split into four areas as the different coalitions fight for control. Don’t let the bastards get you Joe. Keep fighting. You can beat Kung Flu and these insects biting your ankles.
In a movie, this would be very entertaining.
In reality, this is no fun whatsoever.
Where have you gone, Joe Robin Biden?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you
Isn’t the DNC having a “virtual roll call” in the week or two that will nominate FJB? Is that still on?
Agree on both counts. Casting the movie could be fun, though.
I love the irony of the Save Our Democracy™ gang, which won the nomination with an impossible percentage of the vote, through corrupt tactics that a Putin or an Erdogan might have envied, in which potential and actual primary challengers were smeared and strong-armed to keep them off the ballot, now trying to reconcile the notion of removing a “popularly elected” candidate simply because they think he can’t win in November and will drag others down with him. (Note that they don’t make even a pretense of concern that his senility and incoherence might imperil the country in his role as Leader of the Free World and Commander-in-Chief.)
Just as I love watching a clearly incapable President who the evidence of my own eyes tells me ought not to be allowed to manage the egg-and-spoon races at the county fair (remember when he got taken down–at least metaphorically–by the Easter Bunny, for Pete’s sake), refusing to go, when it’s painfully clear that he must.
And they keep shouting that Donald Trump is the one who–when the time comes, and he’s 82 years old himself–will cling to power and refuse to step aside.
Speak for yourself. I am dining in the Schadenfreude Cafe and gonna order extra dessert.
I remember watching the 1968 Democratic Convention, cops clobbering angry hippies in the streets, the entire all-white Mississippi delegation ejected in favor of an all-black delegation (Reconstruction redux), Daley and the establishment outmuscling the McCarthy and McGovernites (never would have happened if RFK had lived–the Kennedys understand muscle). This year could be even more entertaining.
They pushed it back. The voting could have started on Sunday. It was a defeat for Joe.
Thanks OB. Things are moving so fast it’s hard to keep up.
And Kamala opens up a new humor vein. Twitter had a great but crude joke summing up her privileged upbringing (two college profs as parents) and her political rise based entirely on being arm candy for Willie Brown: “She was born on third base but went back to second [to perform a sex act] on the umpire.”
An individual running for office can keep all the monies that are donated to their campaign if they continue to run for office. There is not that I know of any requirement that the candidate must continue running for that office, but can switch off to some other position.
Maybe someone should suggest to Jill that Biden could still run for some other office, after giving up Joe’s current bid to be the DNC’s candidiate for the 2024 presidential race.
If she was told the family could then keep all the delicious funds that were offered up for his being in the presidential race, would that make a difference?
Of course maybe Jill’s decision has to do with the necessity of keeping Hunter’s father in the Oval Office, so that presidential pardons will be readily available.
If and when the Democrats have a virtual roll call is now purely a tactical political maneuver by whomever has the most power.
The original purpose of the virtual roll call was to get Biden nominated before a deadline in Ohio law. But Ohio subsequently changed the law to put the deadline after the Democratic convention. So there is no legal reason to have a roll call vote before the convention.
People have been doing Heels-Up memes for quite a while now.
Is it Game of Thrones?
And the cannibals that got his uncle, don’t forget them!
Somewhere in the shadows, one of the Biden Crime Family’s human traffickers is busy opening shell companies and managing payoff bids for Joe. I heard $2 Billion was the expected “buyout” price.
If they convince Joe to hang on and drop after officially nominated, then the DNC leadership gets to choose the replacement. Do you trust the delegates to pick the “right” person? How cynical is the right amount?
I agree the Dems are dog-piling on Joe for his candidacy, but nobody–NOBODY–is talking about his fitness for office. These people only care about their power.
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Wrong HBO show. Veep
Yes. Thanks. I agree that’s hard to keep up and I’m not paying that close of attention to the Dems. Ohio was going to hold firm on their nomination requirement, so the DNC was going to do a virtual nomination. Then I saw that Ohio gave another waiver, but the DNC was still going to nominate before the convention. A candidate fully in control of his faculties and the party would be on top of this chaos and firmly directing how things would be.
According to this Fox News report, it sounds like Biden is almost out the door. The top leaders of the Democratic Party have said he cannot win, according to the Washington Post.
Heels-Up preparing her acceptance speech:
Do not go gentle into that good night, Joe!
I’m currently holding down a seat at the Schadenfreude Cafe bar, (that dimly-lit alcove adjacent to the main dining room) and will happily continue drinking as long as the bartender keeps serving…
However, I’m still pretty sure the Dems are going to pull this out, regardless of who they eventually nominate and run. They only have to focus their efforts in five, maybe six states, and they own the entire ballot harvesting and counting mechanisms. They don’t have to manufacture landslides, or even overwhelming victories – they just have to “beat the spread,” as it were. The Dems just need to have enough extra votes in the box to lead within the predicted polling margin of error at the time when they stop counting.
I’m sorry to harsh your buzz, but I still think this is what’s going to happen. The GOPe can be reliably counted upon to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
(And now you know why I’ll keep drinking…)
The Clintons need to show the Bidens the path to the future.
Don’t we all know that the Bidens can’t be bought — they are only rented, until a better offer comes along.
Totally agree that this is what is going to happen, especially as the GOP doesn’t seem very interested in stopping it from happening.
Joe Biden is the poster child for everything I despise in Washington, but for mercy sakes let the man rest and face his maker with due reflection and dignity. It is past time for him to resign and his party needs to transition. Drawing this out benefits no one and torments a feeble old man, even if he is one of the ones drawing it out.
You calling for political euthanasia?
You know, as the page was loading the thought came to me, “Put the dog down.” But the scuttlebutt is he is holding out for one more big payday to not further destroy his party. He’ll have to settle for the inevitable pardons for himself and his family and then the whole lot is shoved off the stage. (If I had my druthers and actual special prosecutor would be arranged and they would be dragged through the most revealing and horrible prosecution in the history of the republic, but that is not in the cards.)