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December 11, 2025
The Back of the Book•December 11, 2025

•Episode length: 55m

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Mind, Muscle, and Mimesis

Episode length: 55m

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Chris is joined by Jordan Castro, a novelist, essayist, and the deputy director of the Cluny Institute. They discuss Jordan’s new novel, Muscle Man, as well as the discontents of academia, Jordan’s literary influences, the place of fiction in contemporary America, and their favorite campus novels.

Show notes:

  • Jordan’s new novel, Muscle Man
  • Jordan’s essay on weightlifting for Harper’s
  • Jordan’s previous novel, The Novelist
  • The Cluny Institute

Time stamps:

1:52 – Portraying the embodied life

9:58 – Violence and the Gothic

20:18 – Mimesis in academic culture

29:31 – Writing complex characters

41:09 – Are men reading fiction?

48:08 – Genre and influences

Opening and closing music: Brendan Benson, “Spit It Out,” used with permission from the artist.

Produced by Sean Doolan.

Hosted by Christopher J. Scalia

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    Brickhouse Hank@HankRhody·46w

    I think y'all are right that before you ask why men aren't reading books you should ask why aren't there books worth reading.

    Aside from the thirteen novels conservatives will love but probably haven't read.

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