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March 19, 2026
The Back of the Book•March 19, 2026

•Episode length: 54m

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Good Migrations?

Episode length: 54m

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Writer Lionel Shriver joins Chris to discuss her provocative new novel, A Better Life. They touch on the novel’s relation to Lionel’s broader thematic interests, the challenges of navigating political controversy in literature, and the worrying decline of literacy and readership.

Show notes:

  • Lionel's new novel, A Better Life
  • Lionel on cultural appropriation
  • Lionel on American Dirt

Time stamps:

3:15 – A Better Life

17:29 – Gen Z and the population apocalypse

26:08 – Political controversy, literary representation, and the “vibe shift”

40:41 – The decline of reading & the case for literature

Opening and closing music: Brendan Benson, “Spit It Out,” used with permission from the artist.

Produced by Sean Doolan.

Hosted by Christopher J. Scalia

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