Peace In Our Time?

Oh I get why evangelicals or anyone voted for Trump in the General Election even though I couldn't do it myself. It is why those evangelicals voted for Trump in the Primaries that baffles me and to be frank, really upsets me. I think they were conned and DID think Trump was a good guy. Now they have to defend that vote in the primary and do it by saying he's not Hillary. Doesn't wash with me.

I can help you out with the JFK/ Trump thing.

JFK and Trump both know what it takes to get the American economy moving. The alternative was the sort of Stalinist regime that prosecuted the Little Sisters of the Poor. AND while doing that made every non-politician in the country poorer.

Wake up! JFK, Trump, Obama, you are never having them to your house for dinner. What decisions they make are what matters. Their personal lives and that means 98% of what you hear about in the "news" is stupid, irrelevant who sits at the cool kids table in the high school lunch room noise.

Pay attention to what matters.

Good heavens, @PeterRobinson. I am older than you, haven't had a TV in 32 years, have never watched the Grammys ... but even I know who Kanye West is.

I was well aware of his name for years; recently Scott Adams, Candace Owens and Dave Rubin have all spoken of him as someone culturally important, so I've begun to pay a lot more attention.

JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

I think they were conned and DID think Trump was a good guy.

This is a reoccurring theme among Trump critics and the one that drives me up the wall. Like Hillary’s “deplorables” and Mitt’s “47%” it’s impolitic, insulting and needless. If you care about keeping evangelicals and Trump supporters inside a long-term conservative coalition you’ve got to stop the talk of Trump as con man and his supporters as gullible and/or stupid marks.

The missing question among other elected GOP officials and conservative commentators is this: What was it that caused large and important swaths of conservative voters to gravitate towards Donald Trump in the first place? They don’t ask this question because they know they’re not going to like the answer.

The answer is they feel like they were already conned. For forty years the GOP promised them so many things: Less government, defunding political enemies (such as Planned Parenthood, PBS, NPR, the National Endowment for the Arts/Humanities, etc.), killing Obamacare, and not just free trade, but a level playing field for American workers. And what they got was bupkis. In fact, the GOP trade policies were disastrous for many states and communities. And worse, their response to that was, is and continues to be callousness. (Hey! Cheap trinkets at Walmart!) They listen to the “experts,” they listen to each other, but they refuse to listen to the voters - which is something Ms. Zito has been doing for years.

Not only did they feel conned by the professional politicians, but they look at conservative commentators as their fellow grifters. They were the ones who sidled up to you after the sales pitch and closed the deal. “You can trust him! I invested and I made thousands!”

If the conservative cause is to go forward there’s going to have to be more introspection of why you got Donald Trump and less bitching about the fact that you did get Donald Trump (and who you want to blame for that.)

Meanwhile, if you want to complain about the president he gives you plenty of targets. Debate the style, debate the policy, but stop the unending criticism of the voters. You may need them in the future.

JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

I think they were conned and DID think Trump was a good guy.

EJHill (View Comment):

This is a reoccurring theme among Trump critics and the one that drives me up the wall. Like Hillary’s “deplorables” and Mitt’s “47%” it’s impolitic, insulting and needless. If you care about keeping evangelicals and Trump supporters inside a long-term conservative coalition you’ve got to stop the talk of Trump as con man and his supporters as gullible and/or stupid marks.

The missing question among other elected GOP officials and conservative commentators is this: What was it that caused large and important swaths of conservative voters to gravitate towards Donald Trump in the first place? They don’t ask this question because they know they’re not going to like the answer.

The answer is they feel like they were already conned. For forty years the GOP promised them so many things: Less government, defunding political enemies (such as Planned Parenthood, PBS, NPR, the National Endowment for the Arts/Humanities, etc.), killing Obamacare, and not just free trade, but a level playing field for American workers. And what they got was bupkis. In fact, the GOP trade policies were disastrous for many states and communities. And worse, their response to that was, is and continues to be callousness. (Hey! Cheap trinkets at Walmart!) They listen to the “experts,” they listen to each other, but they refuse to listen to the voters – which is something Ms. Zito has been doing for years.

Not only did they feel conned by the professional politicians, but they look at conservative commentators as their fellow grifters. They were the ones who sidled up to you after the sales pitch and closed the deal. “You can trust him! I invested and I made thousands!”

If the conservative cause is to go forward there’s going to have to be more introspection of why you got Donald Trump and less bitching about the fact that you did get Donald Trump (and who you want to blame for that.)

Meanwhile, if you want to complain about the president he gives you plenty of targets. Debate the style, debate the policy, but stop the unending criticism of the voters. You may need them in the future.

Deaf ears, EJ . They hate us for not being them and Wil hate us forever. I know in my heart I am despised by my betters. Their contempt is clear with every post.