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July 9, 2026
In Dissent•July 9, 2026

•Episode length: 30m

Pacific Legal Foundation

The Heart and Lungs of Liberty

Episode length: 30m

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Who’s afraid of trial by jury? A lot of people, and even some Supreme Court justices. In this episode, PLF’s Steve Simpson and Cato Institute’s Tommy Berry discuss exactly why the Founders cared about the right to a jury trial and the ways the government tries to keep us from getting one. And we tell the harrowing story of Jarkesy v. SEC—a case that recently reaffirmed that, as John Adams said, representative government and trial by jury are the “heart and lungs of liberty.”

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