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April 29, 2020
April 29, 2020Ricochet

Classic Political Vinyl, Vol. 1

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The Horse Race explores the history of political analysis with one of its founders, Stuart Rothenberg, and asks Stu what he looks at to analyze a contest. We also talk with columnist and author E.J. Dionne about President Trump and Joe Biden's chances to improve Democratic performance with white working class voters. Finally, Ad of the Week looks at a Republican candidate in Pennsylvania's 8th Congressional District, perhaps the classic example of a working-class, Obama-Trump seat. Don't be moody, blue, or just guess who - download and listen today!

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•Henry Olsen
Guests:
•EDE.J. Dionne•SRStuart Rothenberg

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    Arahant@Arahant·6y

    Nice of you to have that commie on to lie about Trump.

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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Nice of you to have that commie on to lie about Trump.

    I'm always intrigued by comments like this. I grant you that Dionne is lying -- but so what? Let him make his claims on the record and then be help accountable for them. No one in our audience is going to have their minds or their votes changed by him, so why not let him put his ideas out there? If nothing else, it gives you a window into how the left is thinking about the election and their strategy (which is the point of this podcast).

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    I’m always intrigued by comments like this. I grant you that Dionne is lying — but so what?

    Just acknowledging it, Yeti. If anything, I was surprised Henry pushed back just a little.

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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    I’m always intrigued by comments like this. I grant you that Dionne is lying — but so what?

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    Just acknowledging it, Yeti. If anything, I was surprised Henry pushed back just a little.

    “A lie unchallenged becomes the truth.” That is, by remaining silent you’re giving tacit approval to the lie.*

    The problem is, E.J. Dionne was a “get” for Olsen’s little podcast. If Olsen challenged him, he knew Dionne simply wouldn’t be back. And smear him to his leftist buddies as a crazy Trumpist no one else should have anything to do with.

    *The “Black Lives Matter” movement is a good example.

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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    I’m always intrigued by comments like this. I grant you that Dionne is lying — but so what?

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Just acknowledging it, Yeti. If anything, I was surprised Henry pushed back just a little.

    Taras (View Comment):

    “A lie unchallenged becomes the truth.” That is, by remaining silent you’re giving tacit approval to the lie.*

    The problem is, E.J. Dionne was a “get” for Olsen’s little podcast. If Olsen challenged him, he knew Dionne simply wouldn’t be back. And smear him to his leftist buddies as a crazy Trumpist no one else should have anything to do with.

    *The “Black Lives Matter” movement is a good example.

    Sigh, you could not be more wrong. One, E.J. is not a "get" for Henry. They work together at the Washington Post and have been friends for years. So I can personally assure you that there will be no smearing in the coming days.

    Two, we don't discuss podcast numbers for competitive reasons, but this show is not 'little." It does quite well, thank you very much.

    As noted above, E.J. Dionne is veteran a liberal political columnist. He's paid to give his opinions. That's his freaking job. If you actually listen to show the rather than just write standard and boring left/right diatribes (smears! lies! Black Lives Matter! Yawn...), you'll hear that they have a pretty pointed debate. You might even actually learn something.

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