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3 Martini Lunch

Trump’s Troubling Response, The ‘But Obama’ Defense, Media Misdirection

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David French of National Review and Greg Corombos of Radio America address the horrific violence in Charlottesville over the weekend. David and Greg criticize President Trump's failure to condemn the specific white supremacist and Neo-Nazi groups that led the marches and the connection of the man who committed the vehicular homicide-- particularly when the president has a history of getting specific with other targets. They also groan as far too many on the right deflect from President Trump's stumbles by pointing out egregious mistakes President Obama made along similar lines - mistakes the same people roundly condemned. And they ridicule the news media for grossly manipulating terrorism statistics to suggests right-wingers kill more Americans than Islamic radicals and for relying on the far-left Southern Poverty Law Center to decide who is a right-wing extremist.

Hosted by Greg Corombos, with guest David French

Discussion (12)

  • Arahant@Arahant

    Here's what's disturbing to me: our press does not seem to understand what our federal government is or what the President's job is. Where in the Constitution does it say the President has anything to do with local riots? Where does it say that he is responsible for local riots if he doesn't deplore them properly? Why did Trump's name even come up in this? If we had good journalists who cared about the United States as founded, his statement or lack thereof would be a footnote at best, because what the President says on this should not matter. If you cannot point to where this "crisis" matters in the Constitution, then as journalists, you ought to be explaining why it does not matter. Instead, you are supporting the Imperial Presidency. Step back and support our republic, gentlemen.

  • Patrick McClure@Patrickb63
    So the President condemned political violence, no matter the source, and he is wrong for having done so? What weak sauce from people who do not want to give the President any credit for anything he does. He wasn't vague. The violence of BLM, Antifa and Neo-Nazis is all wrong.
  • outlaws6688

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    So the President condemned political violence, no matter the source, and he is wrong for having done so? What weak sauce from people who do not want to give the President any credit for anything he does. He wasn’t vague. The violence of BLM, Antifa and Neo-Nazis is all wrong.

    They don't care about the violence of BLM or Antifa.

  • Umbra Fractus@UmbraFractus
    Greg, David, I love your show, and I'm one of NRO's strongest defenders, but you guys are not simply wrong, but reprehensible here. The President clearly condemned violence on all sides. To say otherwise is simply not true and feeds the narrative that the counter-protests, which consisted of two groups with a history of violence and anti-white bigotry, were innocent bystanders who bear no responsibility for what happened. These "counter protesters" are the same people who drove Charles Murray, Ben Shapiro, and Ann Coulter out of Berkeley. That they happen to have picked a less sympathetic target this time around changes nothing.
  • Henry Castaigne@HenryCastaigne

    Umbra Fractus (View Comment):

    Greg, David, I love your show, and I’m one of NRO’s strongest defenders, but you guys are not simply wrong, but reprehensible here. The President clearly condemned violence on all sides. To say otherwise is simply not true and feeds the narrative that the counter-protests, which consisted of two groups with a history of violence and anti-white bigotry, were innocent bystanders who bear no responsibility for what happened. These “counter protesters” are the same people who drove Charles Murray, Ben Shapiro, and Ann Coulter out of Berkeley. That they happen to have picked a less sympathetic target this time around changes nothing.

    Good points all. But here is the thing, the people who died where the leftists and the terrorist car attack was done by an alt-right guy. The sides aren't equal in this case. It reminds me of the moral equivalency the left has always treated the Israelis and the Palestinians as the same.

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