Jim Geraghty of National Review and Greg Corombos of Radio America unload on Roy Moore for answering a question about the last time America was great by discussing the family unity during the era of slavery. They also discuss the bizarre tweet from the French ambassador to the United States, who used Pearl Harbor Day to rip the U.S. for not doing more to stop fascism in the 1930’s. And they discuss odd, emotional, and inappropriate details surrounding the resignation of Arizona Rep. Trent Franks for apparently asking two female staffers to carry his child while he and his wife experienced infertility.

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  1. Taras Coolidge

    About Judge Moore saying that families were more stable during the time of slavery: I suspect he meant to say “segregation”, not “slavery”. He probably meant to refer to the 1950s, not the 1850s!

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    • December 8, 2017, at 11:33 AM PST
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  2. Arahant Member

    Taras (View Comment):
    About Judge Moore saying that families were more stable during the time of slavery: I suspect he meant to say “segregation”, not “slavery”. He probably meant to refer to the 1950s, not the 1850s!

    Hard to tell for sure.

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    • December 8, 2017, at 1:15 PM PST
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  3. Lois Lane Coolidge

    Slavery was meant to be segregation? Implying segregation was a positive is stupid, too. One could say something like “I feel data shows many Great Society programs were ultimately detrimental to families,” which is much different from “Families were stable during slavery or segregation.” In the first case, you can have an argument about the impact of government policy that hurt families in the 1960s. In the second case, you’re saying the policy of slavery and/or segregation was a source of good.

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    • December 9, 2017, at 6:05 AM PST
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  4. Taras Coolidge

    @Lois Lane: Sorry I wasn’t completely clear.

    I believe Judge Moore was clumsily trying to make a point that Thomas Sowell has often made: in spite of segregation, black society was in better shape in the 1950s than after the upheavals of the 1960s. Black kids mostly grew up in two-parent families, and they were much less likely to die by violence.

    @Arahant: When Obama said he visited “fifty-seven states” during his first campaign for president, one explanation was that he is an imbecile who doesn’t know how many states there are. But the likelier explanation is that he was in the middle of saying he’d visited all fifty states when he remembered he missed three and tried to change from fifty to forty-seven in the middle of a word.

    When Reagan said he was among the first to see the death camps, some progressives chose to imagine he was a delusional psychotic who thought he’d been in Europe during the war, when he was actually in California. But the likelier explanation is that he was talking about the raw footage from the camps which, as acting head of the Army motion picture unit, he was the first to see pulled together.

    Similarly, it’s much more likely that Judge Moore was drawing on the well-established meme about family values in the 1950s, than expressing strange delusions about the 1850s (when, among other things, slave owners routinely betrayed their marital vows with slave women). He was merely guilty of a Freudian slip, substituting one thing Southern whites are ashamed of, for another thing Southern whites are ashamed of.

    That the podcasters here didn’t grasp this obvious conclusion probably means their biases got the better of them!

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    • December 9, 2017, at 10:05 AM PST
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  5. Bishop Wash Member

    I don’t know how the advertising works with the tacked on commercials, but it is jarring to hear a commercial about killing my baby on a conservative podcast. A few times this week the podcast ended with a commercial from Planned Parenthood. In a way, it is probably good that PP is wasting money on listeners that most likely won’t consider them.

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    • December 11, 2017, at 9:09 AM PST
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