It’s a super-sized GLoP this week (one hour and twenty minutes!) as the men of GLoP (that’s Jonah Goldberg, Rob Long, and John Podhoretz) opine on Sean Spicer’s gaffe, is Steve Bannon headed for the White House door?, the United Airlines bumping, RIP Red Eye, and Jonah’s reaction to the New York Times’ Rick Perlstine’s essay on Conservatism (also, as John mentions in the podcast, you must read the story on how Perlstine and his wife met. It’s in the NYT, but reads like The Onion).

Don’t call us Shirley, @EJHill.

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  1. Profile photo of Benjamin Glaser Member

    John wasn’t kidding about that NY Times article on Perlstein. It was like Commie fanfic.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 11:59 am
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    EJ Hill has done fine work in the past, but this is the greatest photoshop he has ever done.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 12:13 pm
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    BD1

    Jonah Goldberg did, however, support Evan McMullin for president. That’s accurate.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 12:28 pm
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    Demaratus (View Comment):
    EJ Hill has done fine work in the past, but this is the greatest photoshop he has ever done.

    Yes, it’s good, but Podhoretz has no ears.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 1:47 pm
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    tabula rasa (View Comment):

    Demaratus (View Comment):
    EJ Hill has done fine work in the past, but this is the greatest photoshop he has ever done.

    Yes, it’s good, but Podhoretz has no ears.

    You mean JPod doesn’t have the body of a young Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Jonah doesn’t like movies about gladiators, and between a choice of steak or fish, Rob had lasagna?

    Shirley, you can’t be serious.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 2:12 pm
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    ‘Their first date was at the Living Room Cafe in Park Slope, Brooklyn, where, it turned out, they were neighbors.’

    Sigh, I grew up in Park Slope when it was sane , regular working folk, I don’t think a single parent had a college degree.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 2:44 pm
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  7. Profile photo of Lily Bart Inactive

    Jonah has hit upon one of the things that drives me absolutely mad about airlines: that they incrementally push out the delayed departure time when they have no idea if the flight will actually ever take off. And they’re not honest with you about your real chances because they want to keep you committed to that flight! Please, airlines, just level with me and let me just get on with my life!

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    • April 12, 2017 at 3:44 pm
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  8. Profile photo of rebark Member

    Everybody knows that video killed the rodeo star. No one would televise that.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 4:57 pm
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  9. Profile photo of Sheila Johnson Member

    “Vows” is too over the top for even a Woody Allen movie. “Look, junior, these people think that they should be in charge of Everything!”

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    • April 12, 2017 at 5:30 pm
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  10. Profile photo of KC Mulville Member

    What I want to know is where EJ found JPod’s face on a blowup doll.

    Is there something about JPod’s past we should know about?

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    • April 12, 2017 at 5:34 pm
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  11. Profile photo of Max Ledoux Admin

    Josh Earnest may not be the worst press secretary of all time but he certainly is a magnitude of awful worse than Sean Spicer.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 5:44 pm
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  12. Profile photo of Cato Rand Member

    Best Sports Movie Ever: Miracle

    And I don’t even like hockey.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 5:54 pm
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    Oh, and I read the wedding announcement. It’s not really funny, so much as just kind of sick-makingly precious. I feel certain I wouldn’t get along with either of them.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 6:29 pm
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    Max Ledoux (View Comment):
    Josh Earnest may not be the worst press secretary of all time but he certainly is a magnitude of awful worse than Sean Spicer.

    Josh Earnest lied like he was telling the truth, Sean Spicer makes the truth sound like he’s lying. On balance, I think that makes Earnest better at his job.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 6:41 pm
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    rebark (View Comment):

    Max Ledoux (View Comment):
    Josh Earnest may not be the worst press secretary of all time but he certainly is a magnitude of awful worse than Sean Spicer.

    Josh Earnest lied like he was telling the truth, Sean Spicer makes the truth sound like he’s lying. On balance, I think that makes Earnest better at his job.

    Funny analysis!

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    • April 12, 2017 at 6:53 pm
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    Benjamin Glaser (View Comment):
    John wasn’t kidding about that NY Times article on Perlstein. It was like Commie fanfic.

    “A conference on Yiddish socialism”.

    I was actually looking at None Dare Call it Treason on the dollar rack at a used book store last week.

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    • April 12, 2017 at 11:22 pm
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    Lily Bart (View Comment):

    Jonah has hit upon one of the things that drives me absolutely mad about airlines: that they incrementally push out the delayed departure time when they have no idea if the flight will actually ever take off. And they’re not honest with you about your real chances because they want to keep you committed to that flight! Please, airlines, just level with me and let me just get on with my life!

    You know that friend that doesn’t say whether or not he will show up for something. And if he just said, “I’m sorry I’m busy or if he should, yes I’ll do it,” you could work around him. But instead he throws you into uncertainty. This is why Markets thrive on the rule of law, there literally innumerable variables that go into whether a business is successful or not, if the rule of law is clear there are less variables and less risk and therefore, more investment.

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    • April 13, 2017 at 1:56 am
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  18. Profile photo of Rightfromthestart Thatcher

    Sports movies, going by the social impact in that almost everyone has seen it and can quote lines from it it would have to be Rocky.

    Personally I know I’m in a minority but I love Chariots of Fire ,

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    • April 13, 2017 at 5:38 am
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    People like Perlstein are the types who say “I want to impeach Trump, kill him, burn the body and pee on the ashes.” And if someone says, “I thinking peeing on the ashes is a bit much” they respond, “That’s because you loooove Trump, you racist.” It’s like they need that rush of self-righteousness, hatred and extremism to maintain a high. I am terrified by the prospect of people like that ever coming to power because they would govern on a platform of revenge.

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    • April 13, 2017 at 8:24 am
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    rebark (View Comment):
    Josh Earnest lied like he was telling the truth, Sean Spicer makes the truth sound like he’s lying. On balance, I think that makes Earnest better at his job

    Can’t argue with that…

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  21. Profile photo of David Knights Member

    You guys fly the wrong airlines. Fly Southwest.

    As for airline operations, they are tons more complicated that you can imagine. Juggling available planes, crew schedules, weather, etc. is so complex that even modern supercomputers are only so much help.

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    • April 13, 2017 at 12:43 pm
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    David Knights (View Comment):
    You guys fly the wrong airlines. Fly Southwest.

    As for airline operations, they are tons more complicated that you can imagine. Juggling available planes, crew schedules, weather, etc. is so complex that even modern supercomputers are only so much help.

    I fly Southwest all the time. I have not found the service to be superior to other airlines I fly (including United). And they bump people too. In 2016, they bumped 103,607 people, including 14,979 involuntarily. Their ratio of involuntary to total bumped is 14.5%, more than twice than the 5.6% for United for 2016.

    A couple of years ago, I was flying about 1x month between Denver and Love Field. This was just before the Wright amendment expired. The Wright amendment made it hard (impossible?) to get non-stops from Denver to Love Field. I tried to schedule sufficient layover time to make my connecting flight, but they were late Every Damn Time. I would try to talk to their employees about options, and they just didn’t give a damn – we’ll get there when we get there was their attitude (if you could even find someone to talk to). Their reputation is over rated!

    Oh, and when they go through the aisles passing out their little packets of snacks, they roll their eyes at you if you want to exchange the peanuts for pretzels.

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    • April 13, 2017 at 12:57 pm
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    BD1

    John Podhoretz talks all the time about reading the New York Times. Jonah Goldberg listens to NPR and appears as a guest on their programs. If those hard- left media outlets turn around and attack them, I should care why?

    It reminds me of how I was supposed to feel bad for John McCain in 2008 when the NYT was printing bad stuff about him, after years in which he had courted their approval.

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    • April 13, 2017 at 1:25 pm
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    Quinn the Eskimo (View Comment):
    People like Perlstein are the types who say “I want to impeach Trump, kill him, burn the body and pee on the ashes.” And if someone says, “I thinking peeing on the ashes is a bit much” they respond, “That’s because you loooove Trump, you racist.” It’s like they need that rush of self-righteousness, hatred and extremism to maintain a high. I am terrified by the prospect of people like that ever coming to power because they would govern on a platform of revenge.

    I’m reminded of a book written in the 60s in which a character is described as so liberal that if someone were to kill his family, burn his house and pour salt over the ashes, he would say ‘ shouldn’t we hear his side first?’

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    • April 13, 2017 at 1:47 pm
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    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):
    I’m reminded of a book written in the 60s in which a character is described as so liberal that if someone were to kill his family, burn his house and pour salt over the ashes, he would say ‘ shouldn’t we hear his side first?’

    I’m not liberal, but it would depend on which family member we were talking about.

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    BD1 (View Comment):
    John Podhoretz talks all the time about reading the New York Times. Jonah Goldberg listens to NPR and appears as a guest on their programs. If those hard- left media outlets turn around and attack them, I should care why?

    It reminds me of how I was supposed to feel bad for John McCain in 2008 when the NYT was printing bad stuff about him, after years in which he had courted their approval.

    The difference is Jonah is a commentator/writer bringing a point-of-view to an audience that probably wouldn’t otherwise hear it. McCain was a politician turning on the people most likely to support him.

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    • April 13, 2017 at 3:26 pm
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  27. Profile photo of Nick Baldock Member

    I like Tin Cup, but I may be a small minority. There aren’t many good golf movies, although Gael Garcia Bernal as Sergio Garcia is a feel-good triumph waiting to happen.

    I fly once or twice a year and generally really enjoy it, even though I’m back in Deep Economy (if you want a cheap gag, call it Obama Economy). Even security and immigration are so much better than they were in, say, 2003, when I started making regular transatlantic flights.

    The exception was my flight from JFK to London in February, when American Airlines had clearly decided to celebrate Incompetence Day.

    I have a Leftist friend who once celebrated his anniversary on Facebook by recalling the first date. He met his boyfriend at a vegetarian restaurant and they went to see a documentary on Israel. But of course they did.

    @quinntheeskimo, I too am afraid. We are to be ruled by those who believe that virtue resides in complaint. As a hobby, I am collecting ‘liberal’ phrases that progressives don’t, in practice, believe:

    “There are two sides to every story.”

    “Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent.”

    “I disagree with what you say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it.”

    I’m sure Ricochetti can think of others.

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    • April 14, 2017 at 5:38 am
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    Nick Baldock (View Comment):
    @quinntheeskimo, I too am afraid. We are to be ruled by those who believe that virtue resides in complaint. As a hobby, I am collecting ‘liberal’ phrases that progressives don’t, in practice, believe:

    “There are two sides to every story.”

    “Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent.”

    “I disagree with what you say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it.”

    I would add “Coexist.”

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    Sheila Johnson (View Comment):
    “Vows” is too over the top for even a Woody Allen movie. “Look, junior, these people think that they should be in charge of Everything!”

    It reminds me of a former boss and his wife.

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    • April 14, 2017 at 8:48 pm
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