Live from the Nieuw Amersterdam showroom, it’s special Mad Dogs and Englishmen (that’s Charles C.W. Cooke and Kevin Williamson) and GLoP (that’s Jonah Goldberg and John Podhoretz — Rob Long couldn’t make it this year) mashup. Won’t divulge the topics here, but there’s laughs and insights a plenty and a good time was had by most.

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Members have made 27 comments.

  1. Profile photo of Henry Castaigne Member

    I liked this podcast. I didn’t think it was touched by a reverse Midas.

    • #1
    • November 19, 2016 at 2:49 pm
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  2. Profile photo of Forrest Cox Member

    This needs to become a more regular thing – so, so good…

    • #2
    • November 19, 2016 at 3:57 pm
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  3. Profile photo of kmtanner Member

    As a person who doesn’t speak English as first language, its nice hear how Charlie and John pronounce.

    • #3
    • November 20, 2016 at 2:30 am
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  4. Profile photo of David Wilder Thatcher

    Very enjoyable and funny. The two podcast should get together more often

    • #4
    • November 20, 2016 at 9:00 am
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  5. Profile photo of Douglas LeBlanc Member

    I’m a devoted subscriber to GLoP Culture, but in this episode I found the chemistry strained and cringe-worthy, and the frequent silence from the cruise-line audience only deepened the strain.

    Let GLoP Culture and Mad Dogs be what they are for their respective audiences. The sum, at least in moments of humor and wit, was not greater than its parts.

    • #5
    • November 20, 2016 at 1:38 pm
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  6. Profile photo of Simon Roberts Member

    I agree with Douglas – listening to this was physically painful.

    Charles came across like a nasty, unfunny, odious, try-hard, boor. It was only because of John’s good natured decency that the podcast was listenable at all.

    I say this as someone who has enjoyed Mad Dogs and Englishmen for months. I had grown quite fond of Charlie until I heard him here. Either he fooled me before and he is a genuinely revolting person – or this was out of character.

    I fear that it’s the first.

    • #6
    • November 20, 2016 at 9:07 pm
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  7. Profile photo of Quake Voter Thatcher

    When the humblebragging about the costs of virtue signalling is the highlight … not great.

    Remember that Martin & Lewis and Burns & Allen mashup? There’s a good reason you don’t.

    • #7
    • November 21, 2016 at 1:27 am
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  8. Profile photo of Henry Castaigne Member

    Simon Roberts:I agree with Douglas – listening to this was physically painful.

    Charles came across like a nasty, unfunny, odious, try-hard, boor. It was only because of John’s good natured decency that the podcast was listenable at all.

    Do you ever drink at a bar with working class white guys? This was nothing.

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    • November 21, 2016 at 3:09 am
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  9. Profile photo of ClosetSubversive Member

    As a fan of both GLOP and Mad Dogs and Englishmen, I have to say – not great. Drunk podcasting – sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. (I’m looking straight at you, Charlie). Not everyone becomes more charming the more they drink (I do – Drunk Closet Subversive is a hoot!) Having said that, I give props for doing it. These guys are not comedians or entertainers but pundits attempting to entertain a live audience. Didn’t work this time. Maybe next time will be better.

    • #9
    • November 21, 2016 at 8:07 am
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  10. Profile photo of Miffed White Male Member

    With regard to Jonah’s comment about the Clinton Foundation now having to do some good, I would submit that it already has – it kept Hillary from becoming President.

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    • November 21, 2016 at 8:50 am
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  11. Profile photo of Simon Roberts Member

    Henry Castaigne:Do you ever drink at a bar with working class white guys? This was nothing.

    With? I AM a working class white guy. What do think the outcome would have been if he’d behaved like this in a working class bar?

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    • November 21, 2016 at 10:32 am
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  12. Profile photo of Hugh Member

    I think that the two regular podcasts are generally better scripted ahead of time so there is an agenda to work through. I also think that there has been a lot of tiptoeing around on the cruise to stay away from “offensive” topics in the name of Conservative Unity.

    There were a few funny moments.

    • #12
    • November 21, 2016 at 10:51 am
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  13. Profile photo of Archie Campbell Member

    Simon Roberts:I agree with Douglas – listening to this was physically painful.

    Charles came across like a nasty, unfunny, odious, try-hard, boor. It was only because of John’s good natured decency that the podcast was listenable at all.

    I say this as someone who has enjoyed Mad Dogs and Englishmen for months. I had grown quite fond of Charlie until I heard him here. Either he fooled me before and he is a genuinely revolting person – or this was out of character.

    I fear that it’s the first.

    I thought it was all good-natured and drunken [chop]-busting. It was also a mess, but sometimes entertainingly so.

    • #13
    • November 21, 2016 at 11:53 am
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  14. Profile photo of Leslie Watkins Member

    This podcast blew like a fog horn. From Charlie brow-beating John to Kevin correcting everyone and making fun of the ad copy (it’s not like you guys couldn’t benefit from some critical analysis of your own podcast) to John and Jonah seeming to hold back conversationally, it wasn’t fun at all. I mostly didn’t get the need to keep away from certain topics (unnamed but I’m guessing the election). I subscribe to Ricochet for the podcasts, from which I learn a lot. I would have loved to hear what the guys think now: have we entered the end times or might some happy days be at hand?

    • #14
    • November 21, 2016 at 1:31 pm
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  15. Profile photo of TKC1101 Inactive

    First one I listened to in a year.

    I fear the suppressed arrogance at having to explain that they were still right all along and will always be right about THE IMPORTANT STUFF was a bit much. I hope the cruise gives them all a nice participation trophy.

    Now I can go back to the bliss of other podcasts, like HWX.

    • #15
    • November 21, 2016 at 3:53 pm
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  16. Profile photo of Damocles Inactive

    Note to Jonah, who was complaining(?) about Scott Adams endorsing Hillary:

    So I’ve decided to endorse Hillary Clinton for President, for my personal safety. Trump supporters don’t have any bad feelings about patriotic Americans such as myself, so I’ll be safe from that crowd. But Clinton supporters have convinced me – and here I am being 100% serious – that my safety is at risk if I am seen as supportive of Trump. So I’m taking the safe way out and endorsing Hillary Clinton for president.

    As I have often said, I have no psychic powers and I don’t know which candidate would be the best president. But I do know which outcome is most likely to get me killed by my fellow citizens. So for safety reason, I’m on team Clinton.

    My prediction remains that Trump will win in a landslide based on his superior persuasion skills. But don’t blame me for anything President Trump does in office because I endorse Clinton.

    The rest of you are on your own. Good luck.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states

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    • November 21, 2016 at 10:37 pm
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  17. Profile photo of Henry Castaigne Member

    Simon Roberts: With? I AM a working class white guy. What do think the outcome would have been if he’d behaved like this in a working class bar?

    Are you from the South or the Midwest where people are polite?

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    • November 22, 2016 at 4:31 am
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  18. Profile photo of Stad Thatcher

    Weird. My wife and I were in the audience, and thought it was very funny. Guess you had to be there . . .

    • #18
    • November 22, 2016 at 5:22 am
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  19. Profile photo of Simon Roberts Member

    Note:

    No links to piracy websites are allowed.

    Henry Castaigne:Are you from the South or the Midwest where people are polite?

    Look, you seem to be misunderstanding me. I’m not saying that Charlie was aggressive – just that he was, by far, the worst of the performers – supercilious and unfunny. He’s not a comedian so its no shock that his ribbing just came across as nasty. As a result Charlie won’t be getting of my money. [redacted] This is my last contribution on the subject.

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    • November 22, 2016 at 11:18 am
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    Damocles:Note to Jonah, who was complaining(?) about Scott Adams endorsing Hillary:

    So I’ve decided to endorse Hillary Clinton for President, for my personal safety. Trump supporters don’t have any bad feelings about patriotic Americans such as myself, so I’ll be safe from that crowd. But Clinton supporters have convinced me – and here I am being 100% serious – that my safety is at risk if I am seen as supportive of Trump. So I’m taking the safe way out and endorsing Hillary Clinton for president.

    As I have often said, I have no psychic powers and I don’t know which candidate would be the best president. But I do know which outcome is most likely to get me killed by my fellow citizens. So for safety reason, I’m on team Clinton.

    My prediction remains that Trump will win in a landslide based on his superior persuasion skills. But don’t blame me for anything President Trump does in office because I endorse Clinton.

    The rest of you are on your own. Good luck.

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states

    He also later changed his endorsement to Trump: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150919416661/why-i-switched-my-endorsement-from-clinton-to

    • #20
    • November 22, 2016 at 11:46 am
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  21. Profile photo of Archie Campbell Member

    For the record. Cc: @simonroberts

    Twitter Exchange

    • #21
    • November 22, 2016 at 12:45 pm
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  22. Profile photo of Henry Castaigne Member

    Just for the record, English people insult each other as naturally as breathing.

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    • November 22, 2016 at 2:02 pm
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  23. Profile photo of Simon Roberts Member

    Henry Castaigne:

    Just for the record, English people insult each other as naturally as breathing.

    You’re right of course – and very perceptive from all the way over there in the USA. Did you get that from an article you read somewhere or are you extrapolating from an episode of Fawlty Towers you saw? I’m English BTW.

    Let me reiterate – I’m sure it was meant as ribbing but it was so clumsy that it came across as nasty. It’s immaterial though – whether it was meant as ribbing but was so pathetic that he had everybody cringing, or was actually meant to be nasty makes no difference. Either way he’s off my Christmas card list.

    Take away his ‘ribbing’ and what you’re left with is him bragging about how much he was drinking and finishing statements with “deal with it” like a mentally challenged teenager.

    • #23
    • November 22, 2016 at 7:23 pm
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  24. Profile photo of James Of England Moderator

    Simon, is it generally your view that those who do not make you laugh should have their property rights stripped?

    I can understand not reading more of him (you’d be missing out; this not being a great show was something of an anomaly). I don’t understand stealing his work or inciting others to do so.

    • #24
    • November 23, 2016 at 1:23 pm
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  25. Profile photo of Freesmith Member

    For some reason an audience made up of predominantly Trump voters expected 4 determined and contemptuous NeverTrumpers to entertain them with good humor and self-deprecation in a venue where the quartet did not have to pay for their own drinks.

    Please, please, please remember: NeverTrump never dies.

    • #25
    • November 26, 2016 at 11:46 am
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  26. Profile photo of Simon Roberts Member

    James Of England:I can understand not reading more of him (you’d be missing out; this not being a great show was something of an anomaly). I don’t understand stealing his work or inciting others to do so.

    Short answer: consequences. I’m not religious so the consequences need to be temporal to satisfy me.

    I’ll continue to read and listen because he often makes good points but, as Mark Steyn said about Jo Moore, “we know you now”.

    • #26
    • November 26, 2016 at 2:27 pm
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  27. Profile photo of GirlFriday Member

    I LOLed my way through this episode. It wasn’t content rich, but do we not all deserve a little respite after the election? It sounded like friends riffing on each other on a Friday night after you’ve had a few. Lighten up guys.

    Signed,

    One of those Awful Millennials

    • #27
    • December 2, 2016 at 8:17 am
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