The California Syndrome

We still can’t help but wonder what happened to California; and today’s guest has not only been writing about it for years, but is running for governor in hopes of administering a cure. Michael Shellenberger is confident he can take on Gavin Newsom and restore the Golden State to health. (Visit here to donate to his campaign!) He talks about his vision, the growing support he’s receiving, and the big victory for eco-modernists at the Diablo Canyon Power Plant.

Then Steven Hayward, who’s filling in for Peter, switches from host to the guest chair to talk about his new biography, M. Stanton Evans: Conservative Wit, Apostle of Freedom. The guys also talk about the 70s, and the movies that inspired a lotta lunacy.

And be sure to join Ricochet today so you can meet Rob and James in New York City!

Music from this week’s podcast: Placebo Syndrome by Parliament

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  1. kedavis Member
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    Ricochet Audio Network: And be sure to join Ricochet today so you can meet Rob and James in New York City!

    If James is going to be part of the “bar crawl,” that should be added to the on-site promos.

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  2. kedavis Member
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    Excuse me, has the People’s Republic of California built a new water project since the 1970s?

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  3. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    If I had Never Trumpers and people who got Chesa Boudin elected on my “support team,” I would be thinking that I’m being set up as a patsy.

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  4. Mark Alexander Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Excuse me, has the People’s Republic of California built a new water project since the 1970s?

    Infrastructure? California don’t need no stinkin’ infrastructure!

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  5. kedavis Member
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    Mark Alexander (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Excuse me, has the People’s Republic of California built a new water project since the 1970s?

    Infrastructure? California don’t need no stinkin’ infrastructure!

    They depend on other states to do all the things for them, that they don’t feel like doing for themselves.

    Screw ’em.

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  6. kedavis Member
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    No, Jack Lemmon didn’t say “there was a conspiracy,” he says “there was an incident,” and then he says “an ACCIDENT” and that’s when Michael Douglas goes “Yessss!”

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  7. Mark Alexander Coolidge
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    Didn’t realize Steven’s book has been out a month. Just bought it. I remember reading Evans decades ago and really enjoying him.

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  8. James Lileks Contributor
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    No, Jack Lemmon didn’t say “there was a conspiracy,” he says “there was an incident,” and then he says “an ACCIDENT” and that’s when Michael Douglas goes “Yessss!”

    You are correct, sir! 

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  9. kedavis Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    No, Jack Lemmon didn’t say “there was a conspiracy,” he says “there was an incident,” and then he says “an ACCIDENT” and that’s when Michael Douglas goes “Yessss!”

    You are correct, sir!

    And long ago on a Northern Alliance show you made the same point.  :-)

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  10. James Lileks Contributor
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    No, Jack Lemmon didn’t say “there was a conspiracy,” he says “there was an incident,” and then he says “an ACCIDENT” and that’s when Michael Douglas goes “Yessss!”

    You are correct, sir!

    And long ago on a Northern Alliance show you made the same point. :-)

    Hey, just because I can’t remember what I said doesn’t mean you have to be burdened with that responsibility. ;)

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  11. kedavis Member
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    No, Jack Lemmon didn’t say “there was a conspiracy,” he says “there was an incident,” and then he says “an ACCIDENT” and that’s when Michael Douglas goes “Yessss!”

    You are correct, sir!

    And long ago on a Northern Alliance show you made the same point. :-)

    Hey, just because I can’t remember what I said doesn’t mean you have to be burdened with that responsibility. ;)

    I consider it a privilege.

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  12. RufusRJones Member
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    “Most of our problems come from progressive solutions from 25 years ago.”

    Gee, what do I get bitched out for talking about too much here?

     

     

    https://mises.org/wire/were-living-age-capital-consumption

     

    https://www.realvision.com/shows/grant-williams/videos/grant-williams-in-conversation-with-david-stockman

     

    I really wish all of that GOP and GOPe boiler plate stuff worked, but we are 25 years past that point.

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  13. RufusRJones Member
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    What year do you think our legal system stopped netting out for the majority? 

    This country belongs to people that can afford lawyers and  lobbyists, and they get their money from Fed easy money. Think of all of the GDP and personal agency this wipes out.

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  14. Rightfromthestart Coolidge
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    The Three Mile Island disaster , the only ‘disaster’ that did no harm to anyone or anything. 

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  15. Rightfromthestart Coolidge
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    Planning to make the event, is there a sign up process, how do we prove membership?  

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  16. Alex Rosenwald Editor
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    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Planning to make the event, is there a sign up process, how do we prove membership?

    We trust you! :)

    Sign up here -> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-future-of-liberty-in-new-york-city-is-young-and-thirsty-tickets-319223454947

    Spread the word….

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  17. The Cynthonian Member
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    The guest didn’t name him/her, but who is the leading GOP gubernatorial candidate in the upcoming CA primary?

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  18. Wolfsheim Member
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    I’m greedy; that is, I’m looking forward to the return of Peter Robinson, but I also very much enjoy the comments of Steven Hayward.

    Great discussion about California, where I once lived and studied–and whose descent into madness I greatly mourn.

    Very sorry to hear about the lawsuit…Yes, all the more reason for listeners to become members.

    I remember Germany not so long after the war, when there were  maimed former soldiers in front of railway stations. But even then there was what I would call–though with no claim to sociological expertise–a dominant middle-class ethos. Decades later, I would see seemingly healthy young men seated in front of supermarkets, silently panhandling. I grumbled about it to my “liberal” circle, only to be met with shrugs. (I live in Japan, where begging is virtually non-existent.) The last time I visited America, I was stunned by the contrast between all the “stuff” there is and the in-your-face presence of the vast underclass…Europe may have simply had it easier to begin with…Well-heeled European “liberals” (and I know many) strike me as much like the “Belmont” people described by Charles Murray: That is, they (thank goodness) don’t practice what they preach.  Getting strung out on drugs and going insane is simply not the done thing: “Das tut man nicht!”

    Michael Shellenberger’s strategy seems promising: tough love combined with genuine help.

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  19. kedavis Member
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    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    The guest didn’t name him/her, but who is the leading GOP gubernatorial candidate in the upcoming CA primary?

    California might have become, at least for a while, a place where the best you can hope for is a less-crazy Democrat.

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  20. The Cynthonian Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    The guest didn’t name him/her, but who is the leading GOP gubernatorial candidate in the upcoming CA primary?

    California might have become, at least for a while, a place where the best you can hope for is a less-crazy Democrat.

    Very true.  Since it has the Top Two primary, though, I’m curious who Shellenberger needs to beat in the primary in order to advance to the general against Gruesome Newsom.

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  21. OwnedByDogs Coolidge
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    Alex Rosenwald (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Planning to make the event, is there a sign up process, how do we prove membership?

    We trust you! :)

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    I’d like to go but I will never go to NYC again for any reason. Washington DC either. Have one in Dallas or Houston and I’ll be there.

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  22. kedavis Member
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    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    The guest didn’t name him/her, but who is the leading GOP gubernatorial candidate in the upcoming CA primary?

    California might have become, at least for a while, a place where the best you can hope for is a less-crazy Democrat.

    Very true. Since it has the Top Two primary, though, I’m curious who Shellenberger needs to beat in the primary in order to advance to the general against Gruesome Newsom.

    My guess would be he would need to beat some other Democrat, not a Republican.

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  23. The Cynthonian Member
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    I used to live in CA, and I have never heard of any of the listed Republicans.  Of course, the state legislature has voter-imposed term limits, so some of them may be current or former state legislators who have served since I lived there.


    https://ballotpedia.org/California_state_executive_official_elections,_2022

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  24. The Cynthonian Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    The guest didn’t name him/her, but who is the leading GOP gubernatorial candidate in the upcoming CA primary?

    California might have become, at least for a while, a place where the best you can hope for is a less-crazy Democrat.

    Very true. Since it has the Top Two primary, though, I’m curious who Shellenberger needs to beat in the primary in order to advance to the general against Gruesome Newsom.

    My guess would be he would need to beat some other Democrat, not a Republican.

    Probably not.  The Dems in CA are well-organized and tend to clear the primary field of serious challengers in order to smooth the path of their chosen candidate, especially an incumbent.

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  25. RufusRJones Member
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    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    The guest didn’t name him/her, but who is the leading GOP gubernatorial candidate in the upcoming CA primary?

    California might have become, at least for a while, a place where the best you can hope for is a less-crazy Democrat.

    Very true. Since it has the Top Two primary, though, I’m curious who Shellenberger needs to beat in the primary in order to advance to the general against Gruesome Newsom.

    My guess would be he would need to beat some other Democrat, not a Republican.

    Probably not. The Dems in CA are well-organized and tend to clear the primary field of serious challengers in order to smooth the path of their chosen candidate, especially an incumbent.

    California is controlled by the bureaucracy, lobbyists, and unions. They will feed on the host until things get bad enough. 

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  26. Alex Rosenwald Editor
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    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    Alex Rosenwald (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Planning to make the event, is there a sign up process, how do we prove membership?

    We trust you! :)

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    I’d like to go but I will never go to NYC again for any reason. Washington DC either. Have one in Dallas or Houston and I’ll be there.

    We will work on it !! :)

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  27. kedavis Member
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    Alex Rosenwald (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    Alex Rosenwald (View Comment):

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    Planning to make the event, is there a sign up process, how do we prove membership?

    We trust you! :)

    Sign up here -> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-future-of-liberty-in-new-york-city-is-young-and-thirsty-tickets-319223454947

    Spread the word….

    I’d like to go but I will never go to NYC again for any reason. Washington DC either. Have one in Dallas or Houston and I’ll be there.

    We will work on it !! :)

    Still no mention of James in the promo.  (Maybe because he’s not an official co-host or guest?)

     

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  28. Alex Rosenwald Editor
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Alex Rosenwald (View Comment):

    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    Alex Rosenwald (View Comment):

    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    Planning to make the event, is there a sign up process, how do we prove membership?

    We trust you! :)

    Sign up here -> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-future-of-liberty-in-new-york-city-is-young-and-thirsty-tickets-319223454947

    Spread the word….

    I’d like to go but I will never go to NYC again for any reason. Washington DC either. Have one in Dallas or Houston and I’ll be there.

    We will work on it !! :)

    Still no mention of James in the promo. (Maybe because he’s not an official co-host or guest?)

    We will update the promo. Thx @kedavis

     

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  29. Rjcarell Coolidge
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    I moved to San Francisco in October of  1978.   The Halloween parade was on Polk Street then, and I could not believe that many gay people existed.  November gave us Jonestown and the Milk/Moscone assassinations.   My father called me long distance and told me to ‘get your ass home, that place is crazy!”   

    San Francisco is a small town.  I read the “Season of the Witch” about SF in the 70’s  and started highlighting people I knew and there were yellow marks every 4th page.   They used to post Herb Caen’s gossip column over the urinal at most bars and you would recognize names.  I sent in a …item one time and he spelled my wife’s name wrong.  She complained, and Herb sent a personal apology note.  

    Talk about a different time.  My fiance had a studio apartment in the Marina for $300 a month which included parking.  Our college friends would come in from NYC and were amazed HOW CLEAN THE STREETS WERE!  Noe Valley was a working class neighborhood.  There was no such thing as a 3 bedroom home.   You could buy a fixer there for $150K.   Unlike Manhattan, there were no squeegee men, and you didn’t need to put a “No Radio” sign in your parked car.   We had “hippies” and unhoused “street people”, but mostly confined to the Haight.  

    People ask me now “is San Francisco as bad as Fox News says it is?”  I tell them “not that bad, but it’s pretty bad”.  Noe Valley is headquarters for tech oligarch’s like Zuckerberg who tear down properties to build McMansions that sit empty most of the time.  The house 2 doors down sold for $6m and we have tents or campers on the street every summer.   Neighbors place barriers like wine barrels or boulders on the sidewalks to discourage them.   We have neighborhood clean ups of public areas each month and have a competition to see how many discarded needles we collect.  Take a walk in the Castro or down Market St and you will encounter some person experiencing a psychiatric episode, yelling, throwing stuff, or rending their garments.  Tourist areas like Alamo Square, Twin Peaks, or Lombard St are covered with broken glass from car break ins.    

    This tribal one party rule is destroying the City and state in general.  Progressive policies like safe injection sites and selective law enforcement are a disaster.  I hope Michael Shellenberger can break through.  

     

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  30. RufusRJones Member
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    #VoteDemocrat 

    @garyrobbins

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