Sweet Sowell Music

We’re a tad late in publishing this week’s show, but we think it’s worth it: we’ve got Jon Gabriel sitting in for Rob Long, the great Thomas Sowell in the first segment to discuss the reissue of his classic book Discrimination and Disparities  as well as the rise of socialism, reparations, and more. Next up, the also great Andrew C. McCarthy, who stops by to discuss his famous recipe for banana pancakes. No, of course he’s here to talk about the Mueller Report — what it means, when we’ll see it, how much of it we’ll see, and who’s going to look foolish when we do see it. Also, the media and Mueller, and no flipping — it’s another edition of What Are You Watching?

Music from this week’s episode: Sweet Soul Music by Arthur Conley

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  1. Member

    And @blueyeti this one should probably be ricochet, not smartgirl.

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    • March 29, 2019, at 7:02 PM PDT
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    @jameslileks I understand it’s easy to get confused.

    Fourth Estate.

    also Fifth Column.

    :-)

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    • March 29, 2019, at 7:04 PM PDT
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    Dr Sowell says that early-born children in general and first-born children in particular, tend to have better intellectual abilities and do better in life… I wonder if he would say that would then be an “affirmative argument” – or whatever it might be called – that black families should have fewer children, for the sake of their future generations?

    Also, Peter seems to assert that because young people today can use smart-phones etc, that means THEY are smart(er). I dispute that. Lots of rather dim people do a lot of game-playing etc on their phones and home computers. And probably even the smarter ones still have no clue what’s actually going on inside the phone/computer, nor do they care. Rather like being able to drive a car, versus having any idea how it works, let alone any ability to design or construct one themselves.

    (The chemical engineering courses etc, often consist mostly of foreign students.)

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    • March 29, 2019, at 7:27 PM PDT
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    Peter is all excited about that show Vera, and they’re on SEASON EIGHT!!!

    EIGHT SEASONS????

    WOW!!!

    How many episodes is that, anyway?!?!?

    Uh.

    32.

    They have FOUR episodes per “season.”

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    • March 29, 2019, at 8:04 PM PDT
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  5. Podcaster

    “And here’s where EJ gets in the comments…” and praises John Charles Daly.

    What @jameslileks and @peterrobinson did not mention was that Daly was a respected broadcast journalist first and foremost. During the war he was both in the field for CBS and one of the main anchors of The World Today. His voice has been used in countless documentaries as the man who informed the nation of Pearl Harbor, although that recording is a fabrication of Ed Murrow and Fred Friendly for their Hear It Now audio documentaries for Columbia Records. He was, however, the first to announce FDR’s death on CBS.

    And while he was toiling away on What’s My Line on Sunday nights for CBS, he was the Vice-President of News at ABC. He anchored that network’s evening news broadcast for seven years. He actually hit the network trifecta when ABC lent him out to NBC as a fill-in host for Today.

    Daly was also associated with the American Enterprise Institute as a forum moderator and in his second marriage was the son-in-law of Chief Justice Earl Warren.

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    • March 29, 2019, at 8:13 PM PDT
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    @jameslileks I understand it’s easy to get confused.

    Fourth Estate.

    also Fifth Column.

    :-)

    Thanks, but it’s like someone forgetting which branch of the service he’s in. Or she’s in. Or Xer. 

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    • March 29, 2019, at 9:22 PM PDT
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    What @jameslileks and @peterrobinson did not mention was that Daly was a respected broadcast journalist first and foremost.

    I would have gotten around to that, but somewhere in the back of my mind I knew you’d have something else to add, such as Daly’s 1937 monograph against Lysenko’s pseudo-genetics. 

    The fact that you let my Lum & Abner remarks go unnoted speaks volumes, sir. 

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    • March 29, 2019, at 9:24 PM PDT
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    What @jameslileks and @peterrobinson did not mention was that Daly was a respected broadcast journalist first and foremost.

    I would have gotten around to that, but somewhere in the back of my mind I knew you’d have something else to add, such as Daly’s 1937 monograph against Lysenko’s pseudo-genetics.

    The fact that you let my Lum & Abner remarks go unnoted speaks volumes, sir.

    You two should get a room. 

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    • March 29, 2019, at 10:29 PM PDT
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    @jameslileks I understand it’s easy to get confused.

    Fourth Estate.

    also Fifth Column.

    :-)

    Thanks, but it’s like someone forgetting which branch of the service he’s in. Or she’s in. Or Xer.

    Sorry, I should have made my “dig” more clear. Maybe something like:

    It’s the Fourth Estate. Which is now/also/becoming/whatever Fifth Column. So your confusion is understandable. :-)

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    • March 29, 2019, at 10:31 PM PDT
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Sorry, I should have made my “dig” more clear. Maybe something like:

    It’s the Fourth Estate

    I know that, and the reference back to the French Revolution, which makes my slip all the more Freudian. 

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    • March 30, 2019, at 12:25 AM PDT
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Dr Sowell says that early-born children in general and first-born children in particular, tend to have better intellectual abilities and do better in life… I wonder if he would say that would then be an “affirmative argument” – or whatever it might be called – that black families should have fewer children, for the sake of their future generations?

     

    That might be extrapolating Dr. Sowell’s comments farther than justified. I hear his comments as more of a critique of people who want a single explanation for a statistical variation (racism) without controlling the statistics for other factors that might be influencing the statistical variation.

    I suppose that if there were studies that measured race and controlled for family size (maybe by comparing oldest children only?), then there might be a basis for the “affirmative argument.” But, I think Dr. Sowell would insist even then on controlling the studies for several other variables as well, such as parental marital status, parental age, family school attendance, and no doubt others. 

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    • March 30, 2019, at 6:57 AM PDT
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  12. Lincoln

    Meaningless aside, but am very familiar with what Mr. Gabriel did at the beginning of the conversation with Mr. Sowell. In previous life (after local newspaper internship, wrote about musicians for about a quarter century), I led off interviews with what I called “The Gush,” where I would tell the interview subject whatever particular profound impact they had on formative years. Ranged from telling George Clinton I’ve freed my ass and am waiting for my mind to follow, to looking Neil Peart in the face and breathing deeply, “I realize I’m more the stranger than the long awaited friend,” before taking out a framed postcard addressed to teenage me (the Rush drummer used to answer all of his fan mail). He later mentioned this good-karma exchange in his book Traveling Music.

    Could feel how cool that moment was to everyone. Well done. Cheers.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 9:41 AM PDT
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  13. Member

    Yeti, no mention of John Gabriel in the show description??

    Come on, man.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 9:43 AM PDT
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    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Yeti, no mention of John Gabriel in the show description??

    Come on, man.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 10:07 AM PDT
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    Zed11 (View Comment):

    Meaningless aside, but am very familiar with what Mr. Gabriel did at the beginning of the conversation with Mr. Sowell. In previous life (after local newspaper internship, wrote about musicians for about a quarter century), I led off interviews with what I called “The Gush,” where I would tell the interview subject whatever particular profound impact they had on formative years. Ranged from telling George Clinton I’ve freed my ass and am waiting for my mind to follow, to looking Neil Peart in the face and breathing deeply, “I realize I’m more the stranger than the long awaited friend,” before taking out a framed postcard addressed to teenage me (the Rush drummer used to answer all of his fan mail). He later mentioned this good-karma exchange in his book Traveling Music.

    Could feel how cool that moment was to everyone. Well done. Cheers.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 10:12 AM PDT
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    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Yeti, no mention of John Gabriel in the show description??

    Come on, man.

    Sorry but that image does not appear on my iPhone at the top of the column. All I see there is the episode number (441) — the title “Sweet Sowell Music” — and a description of the show, with no mention of Gabriel.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 10:16 AM PDT
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  17. Lincoln

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Zed11 (View Comment):

    Meaningless aside, but am very familiar with what Mr. Gabriel did at the beginning of the conversation with Mr. Sowell. In previous life (after local newspaper internship, wrote about musicians for about a quarter century), I led off interviews with what I called “The Gush,” where I would tell the interview subject whatever particular profound impact they had on formative years. Ranged from telling George Clinton I’ve freed my ass and am waiting for my mind to follow, to looking Neil Peart in the face and breathing deeply, “I realize I’m more the stranger than the long awaited friend,” before taking out a framed postcard addressed to teenage me (the Rush drummer used to answer all of his fan mail). He later mentioned this good-karma exchange in his book Traveling Music.

    Could feel how cool that moment was to everyone. Well done. Cheers.

    Follow him. Well aware. Thanks.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 10:19 AM PDT
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  18. Coolidge

    I’ve read and also observed that people who cheat on their spouses assume everybody else is doing likewise while people do not cheat are genuinely shocked when they find out someone is doing so.

    Andy seems like a good guy who is continually shocked at finding out that some of his Justice Dept. colleagues are not very honorable. He admits here to being surprised at Comey, at the lying to the FISA court, at the use of counter intelligence to continue what is really a criminal investigation. He assured us in the past that Patrick Fitzgerald and Loretta Lynch were straight shooters. He credits others with his own decency.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 10:38 AM PDT
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    British and other series I’ve watched in the last year or two: 

    The entire Morse series followed by its sequel the Lewis series and then the prequel Endevour series . 20+ years and still going of Midsomer Murders 12 years and still going of Murdoch Mysteries (Canadian) 3 years of Dr. Blake (Australian)

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    • March 30, 2019, at 10:50 AM PDT
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  20. Chief

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Yeti, no mention of John Gabriel in the show description??

    Come on, man.

    Alas, I’ve grown accustomed to the constant anti-Finnish bias on this site. Really, really, really white lives matter!

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    • March 30, 2019, at 10:52 AM PDT
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    Zed11 (View Comment):

    Meaningless aside, but am very familiar with what Mr. Gabriel did at the beginning of the conversation with Mr. Sowell. In previous life (after local newspaper internship, wrote about musicians for about a quarter century), I led off interviews with what I called “The Gush,” where I would tell the interview subject whatever particular profound impact they had on formative years. Ranged from telling George Clinton I’ve freed my ass and am waiting for my mind to follow, to looking Neil Peart in the face and breathing deeply, “I realize I’m more the stranger than the long awaited friend,” before taking out a framed postcard addressed to teenage me (the Rush drummer used to answer all of his fan mail). He later mentioned this good-karma exchange in his book Traveling Music.

    Could feel how cool that moment was to everyone. Well done. Cheers.

    Ha! And I would gush equally to my teenage hero Neil Peart.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 10:53 AM PDT
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Zed11 (View Comment):

    Meaningless aside, but am very familiar with what Mr. Gabriel did at the beginning of the conversation with Mr. Sowell. In previous life (after local newspaper internship, wrote about musicians for about a quarter century), I led off interviews with what I called “The Gush,” where I would tell the interview subject whatever particular profound impact they had on formative years. Ranged from telling George Clinton I’ve freed my ass and am waiting for my mind to follow, to looking Neil Peart in the face and breathing deeply, “I realize I’m more the stranger than the long awaited friend,” before taking out a framed postcard addressed to teenage me (the Rush drummer used to answer all of his fan mail). He later mentioned this good-karma exchange in his book Traveling Music.

    Could feel how cool that moment was to everyone. Well done. Cheers.

    Ha! And I would gush equally to my teenage hero Neil Peart.

    Not sure I’d have time to gush with all the genuflecting I’d be doing. From a drumming standpoint. Lyrics? Meh.

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    Just realized the role I may have played in this Photoshop. 

    Or just a coincidence.

     

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    • March 30, 2019, at 12:05 PM PDT
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    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Zed11 (View Comment):

    Meaningless aside, but am very familiar with what Mr. Gabriel did at the beginning of the conversation with Mr. Sowell. In previous life (after local newspaper internship, wrote about musicians for about a quarter century), I led off interviews with what I called “The Gush,” where I would tell the interview subject whatever particular profound impact they had on formative years. Ranged from telling George Clinton I’ve freed my ass and am waiting for my mind to follow, to looking Neil Peart in the face and breathing deeply, “I realize I’m more the stranger than the long awaited friend,” before taking out a framed postcard addressed to teenage me (the Rush drummer used to answer all of his fan mail). He later mentioned this good-karma exchange in his book Traveling Music.

    Could feel how cool that moment was to everyone. Well done. Cheers.

    Ha! And I would gush equally to my teenage hero Neil Peart.

    Not sure I’d have time to gush with all the genuflecting I’d be doing. From a drumming standpoint. Lyrics? Meh.

    Drumming-wise, Peart was a gateway drug out of being a jazz snob (my parents were SF jazz pianists in ’50-60s). As were Bill Bruford, Steve Gadd, Steve Smith (who was massive with Journey at the time, didn’t realize his jazz background), and Stewart Copeland, who told me after that gush, “I’m really sorry. I wish I’d been a better guitar player so you would’ve learned a real instrument.” :)

    Writing-wise, an AP HS English teacher, after borrowing various Rush liner notes over a weekend, scoffed, “Well he puts Bob Dylan in perspective.” Peart’s travelogues are terrific. Voracious reader.

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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    filmklassik (View Comment):

    Yeti, no mention of John Gabriel in the show description??

    Come on, man.

    Alas, I’ve grown accustomed to the constant anti-Finnish bias on this site. Really, really, really white lives matter!

    I have re-written the description to repair my mistake. Apologies to all. 

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    • March 30, 2019, at 1:41 PM PDT
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    @peterrobinson, It’s DI Fred Thursday — Sgt Friday was Dragnet ; ) — in Endeavour. I’m a fan of the character too, played with an air of understated determination by Brit actor Roger Allam.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 2:29 PM PDT
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Peter is all excited about that show Vera, and they’re on SEASON EIGHT!!!

    EIGHT SEASONS????

    WOW!!!

    How many episodes is that, anyway?!?!?

    Uh.

    32.

    They have FOUR episodes per “season.”

    But! Each episode is 90 minutes long…It is a terrific show! We’re huge fans at our house.

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    • March 30, 2019, at 2:38 PM PDT
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  28. Chief

    Zed11 (View Comment):
    Drumming-wise, Peart was a gateway drug out of being a jazz snob (my parents were SF jazz pianists in ’50-60s). As were Bill Bruford, Steve Gadd, Steve Smith (who was massive with Journey at the time, didn’t realize his jazz background), and Stewart Copeland, who told me after that gush, “I’m really sorry. I wish I’d been a better guitar player so you would’ve learned a real instrument.” :)

    Loved Bruford and Copeland. Great stuff.

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    Chris Campion (View Comment):

    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Zed11 (View Comment):

    Meaningless aside, but am very familiar with what Mr. Gabriel did at the beginning of the conversation with Mr. Sowell. In previous life (after local newspaper internship, wrote about musicians for about a quarter century), I led off interviews with what I called “The Gush,” where I would tell the interview subject whatever particular profound impact they had on formative years. Ranged from telling George Clinton I’ve freed my ass and am waiting for my mind to follow, to looking Neil Peart in the face and breathing deeply, “I realize I’m more the stranger than the long awaited friend,” before taking out a framed postcard addressed to teenage me (the Rush drummer used to answer all of his fan mail). He later mentioned this good-karma exchange in his book Traveling Music.

    Could feel how cool that moment was to everyone. Well done. Cheers.

    Ha! And I would gush equally to my teenage hero Neil Peart.

    Not sure I’d have time to gush with all the genuflecting I’d be doing. From a drumming standpoint. Lyrics? Meh.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaqrPpdQYc

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    Rightfromthestart (View Comment):

    British and other series I’ve watched in the last year or two:

    The entire Morse series followed by its sequel the Lewis series and then the prequel Endevour series . 20+ years and still going of Midsomer Murders 12 years and still going of Murdoch Mysteries (Canadian) 3 years of Dr. Blake (Australian)

    12 years of Murdoch Mysteries is credible, for one. But the gushing about Vera having EIGHT SEASONS!!!! was a bit much. Sure, at FOUR EPISODES EACH! Who COULDN’T come up with FOUR stories in a YEAR?

    And yes, Midsomer Murders has been on for 20 years. With most of those years having SIX or fewer episodes each.

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