Rove and Limbaugh

Another week, another set of brand name guests to debate the issues of the day. This week, first up is Karl Rove who stops by the discuss his terrific new book, The Triumph of William McKinley: Why the Election of 1896 Still MattersHow is an election held a 120 years ago relevant today. “The Architect” spills the beans. Then, our old friend David Limbaugh (AKA El Rushbro) cruises by to educate us on why Ted Cruz is the GOP’s last best hope. Also, some thoughts on Good Friday. Thank goodness.

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  1. La Tapada Member

    I haven’t heard the podcast yet, but I have greatly enjoyed the photo.

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    • March 25, 2016, at 1:25 PM PDT
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  2. Penfold Member

    Karl Rove: Gilded Age Political Historian. Who knew!

    • #2
    • March 25, 2016, at 1:27 PM PDT
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  3. Sweezle Member

    TY for making me think I might be able to vote for Cruz in a general election. Maybe. Or at the very least, I didn’t run screaming from the room. Happy Good Friday!

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    • March 25, 2016, at 3:01 PM PDT
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  4. Duane Oyen Member
    Duane OyenJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Karl Rove’s lecture on this at AEI was very good. The constant characterization of Rove as some sort of non-conservative betrayer because he lived in Washington for all of two terms and then spent most of his time back in Texas is really a symbol of how we have deteriorated on the Right.

    And the defamation of American Crossroads, a perfectly fine center-right PAC that has done a lot of yeoman work on our side along with CFG is really self-defeating.

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    • March 25, 2016, at 3:04 PM PDT
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  5. Robert McReynolds Inactive

    Duane Oyen:Karl Rove’s lecture on this at AEI was very good. The constant characterization of Rove as some sort of non-conservative betrayer because he lived in Washington for all of two terms and then spent most of his time back in Texas is really a symbol of how we have deteriorated on the Right.

    And the defamation of American Crossroads, a perfectly fine center-right PAC that has done a lot of yeoman work on our side along with CFG is really self-defeating.

    Can I just ask what you think about this?

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    • March 25, 2016, at 3:11 PM PDT
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  6. Robert McReynolds Inactive

    McKinley looks dead in that picture, like Peter is posing him for a photograph, which is something that Victorians used to do.

    • #6
    • March 25, 2016, at 3:12 PM PDT
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  7. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHillJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Spoiler: McKinley IS dead.

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    • March 25, 2016, at 3:20 PM PDT
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  8. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    Duane Oyen:The constant characterization of Rove as some sort of non-conservative betrayer because he lived in Washington for all of two terms and then spent most of his time back in Texas is really a symbol of how we have deteriorated on the Right.

    This is a joke right?

    Washington and Texas have nothing to do with it.

    The problem with Rove is the same as Rubio and Paul Ryan. It’s love of illegal immigrants over law-abiding, hard-working, tax-paying Americans who reject the welfare state, political correctness, and executive branch and Supreme Court power and arrogance that crushes hard-fought Constitutional freedoms.

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    • March 25, 2016, at 4:03 PM PDT
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  9. M. King Inactive

    Just a thought. I believe it was Rob who claimed that back in the day they didn’t go after wives. That’s just not true, most well known was the case of Rachel Jackson and the election of 1828. The Quincy camp accused her of everything up to and including bigamy. The stress of it may have lead to her death of a heart attack just days after the election. Jackson certainly believed so, and that burning hatred fueled much of his partisanship in Office.

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    • March 25, 2016, at 4:04 PM PDT
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  10. Reldim Inactive

    Go after wives? Go look at what they said about Andrew Jackson’s wife! They accused her – openly – of being a bigamist. She died before Jackson took office and he blamed the accusers for driving her to her grave.

    The only difference, the candidates weren’t the one making the statements. Most campaigning was done by newspapers that were explicitly in one camp or another.

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    • March 25, 2016, at 5:19 PM PDT
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  11. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    300 in roman numerals is CCC, not MMM. That would be 3,000.

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    • March 25, 2016, at 10:51 PM PDT
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  12. Titus Techera Contributor

    Did anyone else catch Mr. Lileks’s remark about Noises off… early on? I assume this is never going to happen again in the history of Ricochet, so pardon me, folks, if I advertise a few things I wrote on director Peter Bogdanovich & his wonderful farces. Noises off… (it’s a scriptwriter’s term, it indicates noises off stage during a scene) is a farce about a troupe of actors trying to stage a silly sex farce. Some things about it are insightful, but it’s mostly just hilarious. That was ’92; in 2014, he made an even funnier farce, She’s funny that way, which is also about the theater, but more about celebrity culture & in what way Hollywood beautification might have a good side.

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    • March 26, 2016, at 2:27 AM PDT
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  13. Titus Techera Contributor

    Reldim:

    I think Gen. Jackson challenged a guy to a duel over that matter, no? I think Dickerson?

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    • March 26, 2016, at 2:32 AM PDT
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  14. Mr. Dart Inactive

    Charles Dickinson fired first and hit Jackson in the chest. Andrew fired next and killed Charles. Seconds claimed that Jackson had misfired on his first attempt and was out of line taking another shot.
    I must say that this past week I would have cheered the return of honorable dueling. It has more charm than acting all bitchy on freakin’ twitter.

    But I’m just an old romantic.

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    • March 26, 2016, at 11:57 AM PDT
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  15. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHillJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Mr. Dart! Twitter birds at twenty paces! At dawn!

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    • March 26, 2016, at 12:07 PM PDT
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  16. Sleepywhiner Inactive

    300. 3M? I guess 3LC didn’t have the same punch line…

    I are stupid, too.

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    • March 26, 2016, at 1:29 PM PDT
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  17. Judge Mental Member

    James, my understanding of the baby and the bathwater saying is that it goes back to the time when people didn’t bathe very often at all. When bath time finally arrived, they would have to carry water from wherever they got it, and then heat it for the big washtub. Dad would go first (and he’s probably filthy), followed by Mom and the kids in descending age order. The baby goes last and by then the water is basically black, so it’s easy to miss him in there and toss him out with the water.

    I would guess that going last in the dirty water also contributed to infant mortality.

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    • March 27, 2016, at 3:34 AM PDT
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  18. J Climacus Member

    Rove is still high on himself for getting W elected twice, even though the result of 8 years of W was Barack Obama, unstoppable Democratic majorities in Congress, and a doubling of the national debt. Not to mention further Republican(!) expansions of Medicare and the waste of treasure and lives in “nation-building” nonsense in the Mideast. W paved the way for Obama. If we can take on trillions of dollars of debt to build nations in the Mideast, then surely we can take on even further trillions of debt to nation build here at home.

    Rove is exactly what people mean when they talk about the “establishment.” The “establishment” consists of that class of donors, consultants and politicians who measure progress by election results rather than progress in achieving a conservative agenda. That he got W elected twice makes Rove a star in his own mind and in the media’s mind. For those of us who judge such things according to whether the national needle is ultimately moved left or right, he’s a disaster.

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    • March 28, 2016, at 10:55 AM PDT
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