Jiggery Pokery

This week on the Big Show, one guest: John O’Sullivan. We booked him to fact check this season of Netflix’s The Crown as he was a speechwriter for Margaret Thatcher and was a witness to much of what occurred in the show (and what didn’t). But that wasn’t the only topic we covered with John. We also had a long and shall we say lively conversation about the Trump legal team’s efforts to overturn the results of the election. We think Mr. O’Sullivan represented the views of many of our members and listeners, much to the consternation of one of the hosts of this podcast (guess who?). Also, Peter Robinson discovers The Beatles forty years after the fact and then immediately proceeds to blame them for a lame Christmas song written decades after the band broke up. Also, a new Lileks Post of The Week courtesy of @majestyk and a short but thorough primer on why streaming killed the movie theater star.

Music from this week’s show: Her Majesty by The Beatles

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  1. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    If you watched the ZoomCast you’ll know what I’m about to say is true: The expressions on the faces of our intrepid trio during the conversation on The Beatles and Christmas music was priceless.

    Here are the best seven and one half minutes of video podcasting you’ll ever see…

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  2. Bishop Wash Member
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    Also, Peter Robinson discovers The Beatles forty years after the fact and then immediately proceeds to blame them for a lame Christmas song written decades after the band broke up.

    Don’t tell Peter about “Happy Xmas (War is Over)”. He’s sixty years late to the Beatles and already knows that the songwriting talent of Lennon/McCartney created two of the worst Christmas songs.

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  3. Miffed White Male Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Also, Peter Robinson discovers The Beatles forty years after the fact and then immediately proceeds to blame them for a lame Christmas song written decades after the band broke up.

    Don’t tell Peter about “Happy Xmas (War is Over)”. He’s sixty years late to the Beatles and already knows that the songwriting talent of Lennon/McCartney created two of the worst Christmas songs.

    By the way, if you ever want to feel old, just remember that when the Beatles broke up, the oldest member hadn’t yet turned 30.

     

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  4. Dotorimuk Coolidge
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    @Dotorimuk

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Also, Peter Robinson discovers The Beatles forty years after the fact and then immediately proceeds to blame them for a lame Christmas song written decades after the band broke up.

    Don’t tell Peter about “Happy Xmas (War is Over)”. He’s sixty years late to the Beatles and already knows that the songwriting talent of Lennon/McCartney created two of the worst Christmas songs.

    Cool effect on James’ head!

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  5. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    Miffed White Male (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):
    Also, Peter Robinson discovers The Beatles forty years after the fact and then immediately proceeds to blame them for a lame Christmas song written decades after the band broke up.

    Don’t tell Peter about “Happy Xmas (War is Over)”. He’s sixty years late to the Beatles and already knows that the songwriting talent of Lennon/McCartney created two of the worst Christmas songs.

    By the way, if you ever want to feel old, just remember that when the Beatles broke up, the oldest member hadn’t yet turned 30.

    I remember when DJs were making a big deal about the first Beatle reaching 64. That was 16 years ago.

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Rob is guilty of the same “first-level thinking” that I see in many places.

    Throwing out the results of corrupt voting in a county or whatever, does not “disenfranchise” the legitimate voters there.

    The legitimate voters were already disenfranchised by the fraudulent votes.  Counting their votes along with the fraudulent ones does not “empower” them in any real way.

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  7. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    Dotorimuk: Cool effect on James’ head!

    I am not a fan of James’ Zoom effects. I think he does that to limit the close-ups I might post. It’s Fargo Fake Green Screen. 

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  8. Samuel Block Support
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    EJHill (View Comment):

    If you watched the ZoomCast you’ll know what I’m about to say is true: The expressions on the faces of our intrepid trio during the conversation on The Beatles and Christmas music was priceless.

    Here are the best seven and one half minutes of video podcasting you’ll ever see…

    Fun.

    Peter’s pop ignorance is one of his best qualities. It’s impressive that he didn’t waste youth droning along with his peer group (the original grating-est generation) who superficially embraced uniqueness and pure individuality as their slogans. Now we’ve got a postmodern corporate culture. Blech!

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  9. MDHahn Coolidge
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    @MDHahn

    Is there a way for those of us who missed the live video to watch it now? 

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  10. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    MDHahn: Is there a way for those of us who missed the live video to watch it now?

    Going to try to get the whole show up on YouTube before the end of the weekend.

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  11. Mister Dog Coolidge
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    I don’t have anything from Friday on my superfeed yet (1900 AKST.)

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  12. Blue Yeti Admin
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    Mister Dog (View Comment):

    I don’t have anything from Friday on my superfeed yet (1900 AKST.)

    If it’s not there, try deleting the super feed and resubscribing. Sometimes they get out of sync. 

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  13. Mister Dog Coolidge
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    @MisterDog

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):

    Mister Dog (View Comment):

    I don’t have anything from Friday on my superfeed yet (1900 AKST.)

    If it’s not there, try deleting the super feed and resubscribing. Sometimes they get out of sync.

    No joy. I’ll try again tomorrow.

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  14. David March Coolidge
    David March
    @ToryWarWriter

    I just want to thank @blueyeti for giving us John O’Sullivan who finally was allowed to take the argument to the biggest podcast in the site.

    And I feel he delivered.  I felt my views were finally recognized and listened to in the first time in a while.

    Thank you

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  15. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHill
    @EJHill

    For the “low brow” deep in Peter’s soul, An American Carol.

    • #15
  16. James Lileks Contributor
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    EJHill (View Comment):
    I am not a fan of James’ Zoom effects. I think he does that to limit the close-ups I might post. It’s Fargo Fake Green Screen. 

    As opposed to Genuine Green Screen? I’m not working off a laptop like these rootless cosmopolitans; I am addressing the world from a monitor placed at a respectful distance. I suppose I could scooch it up a foot or two, but I also suppose that I won’t. 

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  17. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    To Peter Robinson,

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    This space is even better:

     

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  19. Saint Augustine Member
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    Samuel Block (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    If you watched the ZoomCast you’ll know what I’m about to say is true: The expressions on the faces of our intrepid trio during the conversation on The Beatles and Christmas music was priceless.

    Here are the best seven and one half minutes of video podcasting you’ll ever see…

    Fun.

    Peter’s pop ignorance is one of his best qualities. It’s impressive that he didn’t waste youth droning along with his peer group (the original grating-est generation) who superficially embraced uniqueness and pure individuality as their slogans. Now we’ve got a postmodern corporate culture. Blech!

    I occasionally ask myself if I should look into the Beatles. I spent most of my life unaware of the proper spelling. At least I’m cultured where it really counts: Proverbs, the letters of Paul, Tolkien, and Star Trek.

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  20. Saint Augustine Member
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    @SaintAugustine

    David March (View Comment):

    I just want to thank @blueyeti for giving us John O’Sullivan who finally was allowed to take the argument to the biggest podcast in the site.

    And I feel he delivered. I felt my views were finally recognized and listened to in the first time in a while.

    Thank you

    It was great. No running with theories of electronic fraud or centralized conspiracy we don’t have quite enough evidence for. But no writing off serious fraud claims along with the less evidenced ones. Calls for reform to make it harder to cheat in future.

    In “Keeping Track of Election Fraud,” I have eleven allegations that apparently didn’t pan out (including mass electronic fraud with Dominion technology), nine allegations providing general grounds for concern, and another forty-one allegations that are still standing. Eleven of these have survived some level of critical scrutiny, fact-checking, or verification; one of those includes enough likely Biden votes to flip GA and AZ, and three others include illegal votes several times the Biden lead in GA.

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  21. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
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    He’s done some really good interviews that say similar things as Kim Strassel but the only ones I can think of are behind pay walls. His new book is going to be great.

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  22. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    @OccupantCDN

    Its true the Beatles “Wonderful Christmas” is the worst Christmas song of all time.

    I kinda like “I’ll be home for Christmas” and “Blue Christmas” because there where many times, that I couldn’t be home for Christmas – and as sad as these songs are, they’re comforting in the situation because you don’t feel as alone.

    Election results – like anything else that is reported by the media – must make sense to our own experiences to be believed. The real problem is that they dont. Here is why I dont believe the election results:

    1. Complete lack of enthusiasm for Joe Biden. Trump rallied in crowds of thousands – Biden hardly got a crowds of dozens.
    2. The primaries. Trump won resoundingly (unopposed I know – but primary voters still turned up for him). The DNC had to buy off his opponents to clear the field for Joe Biden to win.
    3. The censorship of news and social media stories negative to Joe Biden. The traditional October surprise is too late – Rudy sat on the laptop too long – he should’ve released it in September for it be effective, by the time he released it nearly 1/3 of the electorate had already voted.
    4. Benford’s Law. Joe Biden’s votes broke Benford’s law, Donald Trump’s did not. To me this screams fraud. If this really was a highly improbable situation, and Benford’s law was broken by natural causes – both vote totals would have broken it. At a minimum this says that democrat ballots where treated differently than republican ballots.
    5. The synchronized shut down of the count on election night.
    6. The removal and disruption of election observers.
    7. The censorship of news and social media on anyone objecting to the election results – particularly gulling after the very same organizations spent the last 4 years objecting to the last election.
    8. Joe Biden lost support with Blacks, Hispanics, LGBTQ+, Unions (particularly police and construction unions) and yet managed to get more votes? Donald Trump got historic numbers of votes from Black and Hispanic voters.
    9. Joe Biden won only 477 counties (of 3142 counties).
    10. The counties that Joe Biden won experienced weirdly near universal turn out out… Often as much as 20% higher than neighboring counties.
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  23. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    I am not interested in aliens, either.

    A long time ago I heard a comedian say that he was never going to be interested in it until they land in Times Square and say take me to your leader.

    I think it’s a genetic thing like loving gambling or something.

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  24. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    The money is in streaming. It cost about half as much to release a movie on streaming because there’s no promotion costs. And that monthly streaming money is a golden goose that pays off every single month.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/12/11/nolte-disney-announces-64-billion-in-new-streaming-content/

     

     

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  25. Wolfsheim Member
    Wolfsheim
    @Wolfsheim

    “She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah…” Oh, horrors, I thought, the first time I heard that song back in 1963: the epitome of low-brow rock-and-roll. But then in France in 1965, I listened to “Eight Days a Week,” thinking of a girl in whom I was infatuated…Yes, even for cultural reactionaries such as myself, there is something about the Beatles that, as they say, resonates. I dare say that you of the Ricochet team are really a bit too young to understand it as “we” do…

    John O’Sullivan is a reminder of what National Review used to be. His wisdom is much appreciated, though I wish there had been more attention paid to current issues. Yes, one can favour both Lady Thatcher and the Queen, but I am more immediately concerned about the fate the American republic…Perhaps quite unfairly, I sense a certain complacency…

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  26. Buckpasser Member
    Buckpasser
    @Buckpasser

    Where are the masks?  I thought our betters are telling us to wear masks at all times?  Am I hearing something different from our friends in the media and our supreme commanders?

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  27. J Ro Member
    J Ro
    @JRo

    EJHill (View Comment):

    If you watched the ZoomCast you’ll know what I’m about to say is true: The expressions on the faces of our intrepid trio during the conversation on The Beatles and Christmas music was priceless.

    Let’s move on up to James Brown and Funky Christmas music.

    Idea: A whole series of “Peter Robinson Reacts” to popular music he’s never heard before. 

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  28. Bishop Wash Member
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    J Ro (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    If you watched the ZoomCast you’ll know what I’m about to say is true: The expressions on the faces of our intrepid trio during the conversation on The Beatles and Christmas music was priceless.

    Let’s move on up to James Brown and Funky Christmas music.

    Idea: A whole series of “Peter Robinson Reacts” to popular music he’s never heard before.

    I hear that React videos are the rage now although I haven’t watched any.

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  29. David March Coolidge
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    @ToryWarWriter

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    David March (View Comment):

    I just want to thank @blueyeti for giving us John O’Sullivan who finally was allowed to take the argument to the biggest podcast in the site.

    And I feel he delivered. I felt my views were finally recognized and listened to in the first time in a while.

    Thank you

    It was great. No running with theories of electronic fraud or centralized conspiracy we don’t have quite enough evidence for. But no writing off serious fraud claims along with the less evidenced ones. Calls for reform to make it harder to cheat in future.

    In “Keeping Track of Election Fraud,” I have eleven allegations that apparently didn’t pan out (including mass electronic fraud with Dominion technology), nine allegations providing general grounds for concern, and another forty-one allegations that are still standing. Eleven of these have survived some level of critical scrutiny, fact-checking, or verification; one of those includes enough likely Biden votes to flip GA and AZ, and three others include illegal votes several times the Biden lead in GA.

    For me it is the fact the Scrutineers were never allowed to do there jobs.  Thats it, and thats all I need.  If you were not doing something shady, you would not bar the Scruitineers (US Poll Watchers and Challengers) from doing there jobs.  

    My condo board had a more secure election than Detroit, Philadelphia and Atlanta.  And thats an undeniable simple fact.  

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  30. J Ro Member
    J Ro
    @JRo

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    J Ro (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    If you watched the ZoomCast you’ll know what I’m about to say is true: The expressions on the faces of our intrepid trio during the conversation on The Beatles and Christmas music was priceless.

    Let’s move on up to James Brown and Funky Christmas music.

    Idea: A whole series of “Peter Robinson Reacts” to popular music he’s never heard before.

    I hear that React videos are the rage now although I haven’t watched any.

    I would post one of the videos here but everybody knows that nobody watches videos posted in these comments. 

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