Guns and Brexit

This week, a debate about guns, some inside dope about Trump, courtesy of the great Byron York, one final conversation about Brexit compliments of the ever brash James Delingpole, and the complexities of giving up the thing you know.

Music from this week’s episode:

Happiness Is A Warm Gun by The Beatles

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There are 22 comments.

  1. Member

    From the description, it sounds like you maybe didn’t spend the entire hour talking about Orlando, which was my biggest fear as I patiently awaited this week’s podcast.

    … and if, after I listen, it turns out I’m wrong, so help me I will leave such an impatient and passive-aggressive comment on this thread.

    • #1
    • June 17, 2016, at 12:58 PM PDT
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  2. Inactive

    Dearest Rob, the right term is AR-15. Note, however, the NYPD you and JPod observed were likely actually carrying M-4s that look like AR-15s, but have full automatic capability. In any case they look the same to casual observers.

    • #2
    • June 17, 2016, at 1:15 PM PDT
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  3. Member

    inside dope about Trump?

    I was kind of hoping for outside dope about Trump…

    • #3
    • June 17, 2016, at 1:53 PM PDT
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  4. Inactive

    New member here, another excellent podcast. Joined just now, Rob Long has finally beaten me down, worn down my cheapskate resolve, so I joined.

    • #4
    • June 17, 2016, at 2:22 PM PDT
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  5. Contributor

    Thanks, Schreck! Welcome aboard.

    • #5
    • June 17, 2016, at 3:03 PM PDT
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  6. Inactive

    Does anyone else start yelling “Kill it!!! Kill it!!! Don’t let it live!!” at no one in particular whenever you detect James starting into a segue?

    • #6
    • June 17, 2016, at 3:13 PM PDT
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  7. Inactive

    Publius:Does anyone else start yelling “Kill it!!! Kill it!!! Don’t let it live!!” at no one in particular whenever you detect James starting into a segue?

    You know what would kill it? A sharp blade, and where might you get one of those, why our friends at Harry’s Shave.

    • #7
    • June 17, 2016, at 3:43 PM PDT
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  8. Member

    Are you allowed to say viz. in a podcast?

    • #8
    • June 17, 2016, at 3:49 PM PDT
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  9. Inactive

    shreck:

    Publius:Does anyone else start yelling “Kill it!!! Kill it!!! Don’t let it live!!” at no one in particular whenever you detect James starting into a segue?

    You know what would kill it? A sharp blade, and where might you get one of those, why our friends at Harry’s Shave.

    Yep. You win the Internet today. Well played, sir.

    • #9
    • June 17, 2016, at 3:54 PM PDT
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  10. Member

    I think the quislings leadership of the Republican Party has dithered too long to stop Trump at the convention. Perhaps you could have Ben Ginsburg or some other authoritative source on to discuss how the party might withdraw the nomination and choose a rational candidate between the convention and election day.

    • #10
    • June 17, 2016, at 7:01 PM PDT
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  11. Inactive

    This is the best podcast on the market hands down. Keep up the good work.

    • #11
    • June 17, 2016, at 9:36 PM PDT
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  12. Member

    Lileks’ segues now play as a kind of chess game between himself and his listeners (including Peter and Rob!) who try to anticipate the island-hopping connectivity within those astonishing, off-the-cuff perorations that somehow — incredibly — always find their way to the sponsor.

    My favorite (among countless gems) was the time he started wondering about how TV’s “The Simpsons” could possibly continue without the voice of Harry Shearer (who was theatening to leave the show at the time) which got him holding forth about how the great Harry Shearer was a major reason for the show’s success… which led to him adding “And a great shearer from Harry’s is something YOU’LL need if you want a successful shave!” — (Or words to that effect; I’m paraphrasing from memory)

    It was amazing stuff. There’s still a dent in the floor where my jaw used to be.

    • #12
    • June 17, 2016, at 11:44 PM PDT
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  13. Inactive

    Hey can all you non members please just join so I don’t have to listen to Rob’s membership pitch anymore.

    Thanks

    De

    • #13
    • June 18, 2016, at 11:08 AM PDT
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  14. Member

    I am dismayed. I am only a few minutes into the podcast and I had to stop it. Peter is buying the Leftist misinformation about AR-15 and guns. Then he talks about radical Islam almost as a throwaway line.

    And Rob is talking about the perp being “crazy” and his “crazy family”. He is not crazy. He has a totally well thought out and cogent worldview based on his religion. It is totally at odds with our western values. But Mateen is not “crazy”.

    • #14
    • June 18, 2016, at 7:42 PM PDT
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  15. Founder

    Metalheaddoc:I am dismayed. I am only a few minutes into the podcast and I had to stop it. Peter is buying the Leftist misinformation about AR-15 and guns.

    Ah, Metalheaddoc, but if you had continued to listen, you’d have heard Rob correct me!

    • #15
    • June 19, 2016, at 3:11 PM PDT
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  16. Contributor

    Peter Robinson: Ah, Metalheaddoc, but if you had continued to listen, you’d have heard Rob correct me!

    I thought I corrected you. ;)

    • #16
    • June 19, 2016, at 8:28 PM PDT
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  17. Moderator

    I started out this comment saying that someone in California needs to invite Peter out to a gun range, so he can try out an AR-15 with his own hands. Then I remembered that California is dominated by communists who have outlawed the AR-15.

    • #17
    • June 20, 2016, at 9:11 AM PDT
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  18. Member

    Metalheaddoc:I am dismayed. I am only a few minutes into the podcast and I had to stop it. Peter is buying the Leftist misinformation about AR-15 and guns. Then he talks about radical Islam almost as a throwaway line.

    Yes, you were corrected on the fact that an AR was not used in the shooting. That is not the “dismaying” part, Peter. It is that you led that thought with the idea that you were unsure if someone should be allowed to have an AR in the first place. (No, I do not have one, but have used them for a very long time.) You are ignorant about the specifics (conflating an AR and an Uzi), but make statements, hesitant though they may be, about what should be allowed.

    • #18
    • June 21, 2016, at 5:21 AM PDT
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  19. Member

    Not infrequently I wince when reminded of how much older I am than the members of the Mighty Trio, even though they themselves hardly boast of their youth. “Where Have All the Flowers Gone” is a song that was penned long ago by that old Commie Pete Seeger. When I told a friend of mine, a retired Foreign Service officer, that one of the three had assigned it to Bob Dylan, he sneered that BD “wouldn’t have been caught dead singing that tripe.” Well, no, alas, that’s not quite true, but his instincts, I would like to think, are surely right.

    • #19
    • June 21, 2016, at 5:53 AM PDT
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  20. Member

    Peter Robinson:

    Metalheaddoc:I am dismayed. I am only a few minutes into the podcast and I had to stop it. Peter is buying the Leftist misinformation about AR-15 and guns.

    Ah, Metalheaddoc, but if you had continued to listen, you’d have heard Rob correct me!

    I finished the podcast. My dismay was the fact that your first response was to question the gun. This is how rights are lost. People who fight for their cherished rights, but are willing to allow restrictions on other’s rights because they don’t “use” those rights.

    Drug legalization — I don’t care cuz I don’t use drugs.

    Gun rights — I don’t care cuz I don’t use guns.

    Civil asset forfeiture — I don’t care cuz I’m not a criminal.

    Etc. Eventually, that wheel turns around to a right that you do care about. Then you are left alone in the cold because you didn’t stick up for your fellow citizen’s rights because they didn’t directly affect you and you weren’t fully informed about the ramifications.

    My second source of the dismay was Rob describing terrorists as “crazy”. That’s just like calling them “lone wolves” as a way of dismissing the fact that they all subscribe to an ideology that provides the scum with a righteous justification for their scumbaggery.

    • #20
    • June 21, 2016, at 12:22 PM PDT
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  21. Member
    RPD

    Interesting podcast. Peter exclaims the people should be allowed to own tanks, I ask, why not? Those tanks that are on the market are expensive beyond the means of all but the wealthiest, the machine guns are already essentially limited by the firearms acts of 1934 and 1986. I don’t know if the cannon is regulated, but why bother? It’s a case of where the object itself is so expensive and of so little utility that it’s well out of the reach of criminals and crazies. It’s the same argument with the Barrett sniper rifle on up to nuclear weapons.

    My point is that we like to cite that people should have X that they aren’t getting anyway, while left is trying to take away Y, those weapons that are both procurable and serviceable.

    • #21
    • June 22, 2016, at 6:19 AM PDT
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  22. Member

    Early in this podcast, while Rob was giving his usual pitch to listeners to become paying members of Ricochet, he used the term “card-carrying” referring to members. Well, I’ve been a paying member for several years and I have never received a membership card. I respectfully request that one be issued to me post haste so that I can become a fully vested, “card-carrying” member in good standing.

    • #22
    • June 26, 2016, at 3:25 PM PDT
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