The modern conservative movement born in the 1950s had two main objects: It was anti-Communist, and anti-New Deal. Lately, however, some conservatives have warmed up to both FDR and the New Deal, which has to have Robert Taft rolling over in his grave—and maybe William F. Buckley, Jr. too. Conrad Black, an esteemed man of the right, has long championed FDR as a “champion of freedom” (the subtitle of his ginormous—and excellent—biography of FDR), but others on the Trumpian right have lately been thinking that perhaps FDR and the New Deal might be useable for conservative purposes today.

“Lucretia” and I aren’t so sure, and so in a return to our seminar format, we walk through one of Roosevelt’s most revealing speeches—the “Commonwealth Club Address” of September 1932, which we think reveals FDR to be a very clever and insidious preserver of Woodrow Wilson’s Progressivism, but the more artful FDR appears to be preserving the American Founding while re-interpreting it along Wilsonian lines. It was one of the great Brinks jobs in American politics, whose effects are still very very much with us today. (Footnote: For all of his admiration for FDR, Conrad Black gets the Commonwealth Club speech right in his FDR biography, and it is significant that most of the sympathetic liberal FDR biographers skip over this important speech entirely, because they don’t take ideas seriously.)

Then, along with some current whisky news, we review briefly Ibram X. Kendi’s struggle to define racism. It isn’t pretty. In fact the circular logic of his answer will leave you dizzy, even without a second and third whisky. Cheers!

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  1. StoughtonObserver Member
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    Podcasts ranked in order (good to bad).

    1. Tie:
      Ricochet podcast,
      Powerline
    2. Klavan.
    3. 3 Whiskey Happy Hour.
    4. 3 Martini Lunch
    5. I like Sarah Carter but so many commercials…

       Tie for worst Conservative podcasts. Or maybe best Liberal podcasts?
      Erick Erickson
      Carol Roth

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  2. Steven Hayward Podcaster
    Steven Hayward
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    StoughtonObserver (View Comment):

    Podcasts ranked in order (good to bad).

    1. Tie:
      Ricochet podcast,
      Powerline
    2. Klavan.
    3. 3 Whiskey Happy Hour.
    4. 3 Martini Lunch
    5. I like Sarah Carter but so many commercials…

      Tie for worst Conservative podcasts. Or maybe best Liberal podcasts?
      Erick Erickson
      Carol Roth

    You are a great American!

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  3. Richard Easton Member
    Richard Easton
    @RichardEaston

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  4. Boney Cole Member
    Boney Cole
    @BoneyCole

    Who does the opening music?  I like the energy of the opening and closing, well done.

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  5. Steven Hayward Podcaster
    Steven Hayward
    @StevenHayward

    Boney Cole (View Comment):

    Who does the opening music? I like the energy of the opening and closing, well done.

    The opening bumper is “Whiskey” (duh) by the Tejon Street Corner Thieves (I never heard of them either, but I like ’em); the closing bumper this week is “Whisky’s Gone” by the Zac Brown Band. Thanks for listening! (And whisky song recommendations welcome. . .)

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  6. Boney Cole Member
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    @BoneyCole

    Steven Hayward (View Comment):

    Boney Cole (View Comment):

    Who does the opening music? I like the energy of the opening and closing, well done.

    The opening bumper is “Whiskey” (duh) by the Tejon Street Corner Thieves (I never heard of them either, but I like ’em); the closing bumper this week is “Whisky’s Gone” by the Zac Brown Band. Thanks for listening! (And whisky song recommendations welcome. . .)

    Thanks. Tejon Street Corner Thieves, nice discovery. 

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  7. Richard Easton Member
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    @RichardEaston

    Steven Hayward (View Comment):

    StoughtonObserver (View Comment):

    Podcasts ranked in order (good to bad).

    1. Tie:
      Ricochet podcast,
      Powerline
    2. Klavan.
    3. 3 Whiskey Happy Hour.
    4. 3 Martini Lunch
    5. I like Sarah Carter but so many commercials…

      Tie for worst Conservative podcasts. Or maybe best Liberal podcasts?
      Erick Erickson
      Carol Roth

    You are a great American!

    And when Steve is a guest host of the Ricochet podcast, it shoots to the top!

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  8. colleenb Member
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    @colleenb

    StoughtonObserver (View Comment):

    Podcasts ranked in order (good to bad).

    1. Tie:
      Ricochet podcast,
      Powerline
    2. Klavan.
    3. 3 Whiskey Happy Hour.
    4. 3 Martini Lunch
    5. I like Sarah Carter but so many commercials…

      Tie for worst Conservative podcasts. Or maybe best Liberal podcasts?
      Erick Erickson
      Carol Roth

    Oh wow. Even Lucretia gave you a thumbs up!

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  9. colleenb Member
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    Enjoyed the discussion. One of my (many) disappointments with the Ken Burn’s Roosevelt documentary is that he gave you the same old, same old on FDR. He could have at least interviewed Amity Schlas for a different viewpoint on FDR’s economic actions. I’m sure there are other economists and historians who have a more ’rounded’ view of FDR. 

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  10. Taras Coolidge
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    colleenb (View Comment):

    StoughtonObserver (View Comment):

    Podcasts ranked in order (good to bad).

    1. Tie:
      Ricochet podcast,
      Powerline
    2. Klavan.
    3. 3 Whiskey Happy Hour.
    4. 3 Martini Lunch
    5. I like Sarah Carter but so many commercials…

      Tie for worst Conservative podcasts. Or maybe best Liberal podcasts?
      Erick Erickson
      Carol Roth

    Oh wow. Even Lucretia gave you a thumbs up!

    Three Martini Lunch is the worst for commercials, in my experience.  I used to listen to it regularly, just to fact check Jim Geraghty, who is always wrong (tm), but he is also prosy and conventional, so it grew too tiresome.

    The Federalist Radio Hour is of consistently high quality and, wisely, they stop when there’s no more to say; rather than dragging it out to an hour, as many podcasts do.

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