Who needs Steve’s peaty, smoky whisky this week when Canada is supplying a surplus for half the nation? (But it ain’t Canadian Club they’re serving.) After clearing the smoke from our eyes—and our whisky glasses, we get down to business on what is known so far about the Trump indictment (we recorded before the full details of the indictment were released), and wonder of the Dept. of Justice isn’t blowing a lot of smoke.

And just how did the Supreme Court manage to botch the Voting Rights Act case?

Finally, we begin rolling out our listener-requested Essential Reading List, starting with a couple titles for the category of philosophy. Naturally Steve and Lucretia divide on a title to recommend. Next week we’ll either do history or biography, which are also difficult categories, but that’s part of the fun.

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  1. Richard Easton Coolidge
    Richard Easton
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    There’s a lot of histort out there. That’s one of your better typos.

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  2. WilliamWarford Coolidge
    WilliamWarford
    @WilliamWarford

    Who wouldn’t have tears running down their cheeks watching Kamala get nominated?

    Scored both book recommendations from Jeff Bezos. Steve’s was free on Audible, a price I hope is not indicative of its worth. No, it sounds good and I’m sure I will like it. 

     

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  3. Quickz Member
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    @Quickz

    Pence’s J6 comments are so easily waved away by playing his comments two days prior ….

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5000573/user-clip-pence-speaks-voting-irregularities

    “…I SHARE THE CONCERNS ABOUT VOTING IRREGULARITIES. I PROMISE YOU COME THIS WEDNESDAY, WE WILL HAVE OUR DAY IN CONGRESS, WE WILL HEAR THE OBJECTIONS AND HEAR THE EVIDENCE. BUT TOMORROW IS GEORGIA’S DAY. SO FOR OUR FAITH, FOR OUR FREEDOM, WE NEED TO VOTE GEORGIA” (CAPS from C-SPAN site, not me, Lol)

    Yeah, so much for that. If he lies here (didn’t support “our day in Congress”, didn’t “hear evidence,” in fact he shut any hope of it down. So if he lied on 1/4, then he’s untrustworthy. Oh well. C-SPAN is forever Miguel.

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  4. Quickz Member
    Quickz
    @Quickz

    This was a great podcast. I look forward to hearing more analysis from everyone. Jon appearance on Fox was short but powerful. Interesting times.

    Yeah the Alabama thing was strange. Throwing a bone to the lefties before Affirmative Action is overturned at SCOTUS? To draw forth from the CRA 65 the the concept of majority-minority congressional districts, as Jon so simply pointed out, is just again the court empowering the CRA regime. How are we to roll back other court-created legal regimes like disparate impact if they are *still* making things up? Justice Thomas is correct to point out that this is not what the plain language of the act is about. Disgusting that those 2 voted to support bigotry.

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  5. Quickz Member
    Quickz
    @Quickz

    I put both those books on my insanely long list of books to get – thanks for them. My professor recommended the same book as Lucretia, and as a primer told me to read the essay, “What is Political Philosophy?” as a first toe-dip introduction to Strauss. I found almost the whole thing on google books, its only missing the last 10 pages or so. Maybe someone knows where one can find the essay without buying a whole book?

    Google Books link: https://www.google.com/books/edition/What_is_Political_Philosophy_And_Other_S/W5m6lCFR53YC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=inauthor:%22Leo+Strauss%22&printsec=frontcover

     

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  6. Al Sparks Coolidge
    Al Sparks
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    When I listen to Lucretia attack the Justice Department indictment against Tump with such passion, it leave me cold.

    So yes, the indictment is a bad precedent, and will mean that the department will be further weaponized for political gain by subsequent administrations. Yes, when Trump brought those documents with classified markings to Mar-a-Lago, he was still president and that means he was in effect declassifying those documents. And the prosecution is meant to enhance Trump’s chances in getting the Republican nomination so that Biden can run against him again.

    Whatever the legalisms, what Trump did was wrong. For now, I’m going to accept at fact that the FBI approached Trump or his people about returning those documents. He just should have done it. The lack of judgement he displayed, over such low stakes for him, is abysmal, and is another reason why he should not get another term.

    I was in the military and had a Secret clearance. Before I was given that clearance I went through training and it was made clear that I could be court-martialed for negligence in handling classified material. It wasn’t limited to willfully leaking, but simple negligence, whether it resulted in a leak or not.

    When Ron DeSantis says he could have been court-martialed for mishandling classified material, he was correct.

    I don’t think Trump should be prosecuted for this, for a host of reasons. But I can’t get worked up over what’s happening. I just can’t.

    I agree that Trump will get a bump in the polls as Steve says. But a bump by definition means that his poll numbers will go back down.

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  7. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    When I listen to Lucretia attack the Justice Department indictment against Tump with such passion, it leave me cold.

    So yes, the indictment is a bad precedent, and will mean that the department will be further weaponized for political gain by subsequent administrations. Yes, when Trump brought those documents with classified markings to Mar-a-Lago, he was still president and that means he was in effect declassifying those documents. And the prosecution is meant to enhance Trump’s chances in getting the Republican nomination so that Biden can run against him again.

    Whatever the legalisms, what Trump did was wrong. For now, I’m going to accept at fact that the FBI approached Trump or his people about returning those documents. He just should have done it. The lack of judgement he displayed, over such low stakes for him, is abysmal, and is another reason why he should not get another term.

    I was in the military and had a Secret clearance. Before I was given that clearance I went through training and it was made clear that I could be court-martialed for negligence in handling classified material. It wasn’t limited to willfully leaking, but simple negligence, whether it resulted in a leak or not.

    When Ron DeSantis says he could have been court-martialed for mishandling classified material, he was correct.

    I don’t think Trump should be prosecuted for this, for a host of reasons. But I can’t get worked up over what’s happening. I just can’t.

    I agree that Trump will get a bump in the polls as Steve says. But a bump by definition means that his poll numbers will go back down.

    Your second paragraph contradicts your third one. Under the Presidential Records Act, Trump was entitled to take these records when he left the presidency. Many of them pertained to Crossfire Hurricane. Thus, they documented the illegal actions taken against Trump. Obviously, the guilty parties in the DOJ wanted them back. You state that what’d Trump did was wrong. The president is in charge of the classification system. It’s a tool of him not the other way round. What Trump did was not wrong.

    https://twitter.com/TheStormRedux/status/1667281846894313473?s=20

    https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1667867753150136321?s=61&t=UKLH2-24egSn4VVwl0Ofqw

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  8. Saint Augustine Member
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  9. Al Sparks Coolidge
    Al Sparks
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    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    Your second paragraph contradicts your third one.

    Not really.  Just because something is legal to do, doesn’t make it right.  What Trump did was legal.  And it was wrong.  Both can be true.

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  10. WilliamWarford Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Very good. Thank you.

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  11. Richard Easton Coolidge
    Richard Easton
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    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    Richard Easton (View Comment):
    Your second paragraph contradicts your third one.

    Not really. Just because something is legal to do, doesn’t make it right. What Trump did was legal. And it was wrong. Both can be true.

    The president is in charge of the classification standards. The standards which pertain to subordinates do not apply to him.

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  12. LibertyDefender Member
    LibertyDefender
    @LibertyDefender

    Finally someone (else) mentions one of the most criminally underreported aspects of Trump’s first term:

    Race Bannon was the Vice President of the United States!

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