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The Cuyahoga River on fire. But not when you think.
This Saturday, June 22, marks the 50th anniversary of one of the iconic moments of the modern environmental history—the infamous Cuyahoga River fire in Cleveland. Things were so bad, the legend goes, that rivers were catching fire! But most of what you think you know about that story is incomplete or inaccurate, argues Jonathan H. Adler, the Johan Verheij Professor of Law at Case Western Reserve University School of Law. In a now-famous article, “Fables of the Cuyahoga,” Adler explains “the rest of the story,” to borrow an old saying. Part of that story is about why subsequent national legislation wasn’t always the best or only remedy for environmental problems.
Like most law professors, Jon is an ardent Supreme Court watcher, so we also talk about jurisprudence, the all-important “Chevron Doctrine” that is now subject of many second thoughts and potential revisions, and how a number of common perceptions of the Supreme Court are inaccurate. And since Jon specializes in environmental law, we also spend a few minutes on what else—climate change.
The bumper music was selected to match our topic: “Carbon Monoxide” by Cake, and “Bad Pollution” by the Zucchini Brothers.
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Very interesting interview. I don’t trust the climate change folk (especially since if its a crisis, act like its a crisis which means no air travel, no AC or heat, walk everywhere, etc) to see reason on this. I wish the Professor luck. Also, isn’t scary that he was warned away from a history major all those years ago?
“Put a cap on climate change …”? So mankind has the ability to bring stasis to a 4.5 billion year old kinetic system? I cannot take seriously anyone who thinks that we can stabilize the climate. We can stop, as we have, putting pollutants into the air. But mankind neither causes nor can stop global warming or cooling. It is a natural process that has swung from warmer to cooler to warmer, ad infinitum. Professor Adler’s belief that we can “cap” global warming reduces my respect for his intellect. Not that my opinion will make any difference in his life, just like our efforts to adjust “greenhouse gases” will actually make any difference to the climate.
The US trying to influence global warming is rather like the passenger in a car trying to avoid an accident up ahead by leaning, when the car is being driven by China and India.
Steve: You repeatedly mispronounced the name of the river in question. It is 4 syllables:
KY ah HOE gah.
https://www.pronouncenames.com/pronounce/cuyahoga
Randy Newman “Burn On”
There’s a red moon rising
On the Cuyahoga River
There’s a red moon rising
On the Cuyahoga River
Rolling into Cleveland to the lake
There’s a red moon rising
On the Cuyahoga River
Rolling into Cleveland to the lake
There’s an oil barge winding
Down the Cuyahoga River
Rolling into Cleveland to the lake
There’s an oil barge winding
Down the Cuyahoga River
Rolling into Cleveland to the lake
Cleveland, city of light, city of magic
Cleveland, city of light, you’re calling me
Cleveland, even now I can remember
Because the Cuyahoga River
Goes smoking through my dreams
Burn on, big river, burn on
Burn on, big river, burn on
Now the Lord can make you tumble
And the Lord can make you turn
And the Lord can make you overflow
But the Lord can’t make you burn
Burn on, big river, burn on
Burn on, big river, burn on