Zoom GLoP II: GLoP Harder (The Radio Edit)

This past Sunday evening we ventured back into the Land of Zoom: our second GLoP Culture podcast captured on video. This is the audio of that event (the video is here on Ricochet and behind the paywalls at The Dispatch and Commentary).

This has everything you could possibly want – drinking, smoking, checkpoint running and Nazi monkeys – and that’s just from Jonah! Meanwhile, JPod offers copious notes for Rob’s new Texas-centric project. In other words, it’s a GLoP.

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  1. kedavis Member

    That “Indy doesn’t affect the outcome of the movie” thing is such, to use a JPod-ism… BS.

    Yes, without Indy the Nazis would have gotten the Ark and taken it to that island, and opened it, and THOSE Nazis would have died…

    And then the Ark would have wound up in a US government warehouse in NY or DC, right?

    Do tell.

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    • April 29, 2020, at 2:22 PM PDT
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  2. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White MaleJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    That “Indy doesn’t affect the outcome of the movie” thing is such, to use a JPod-ism… BS.

    Yes, without Indy the Nazis would have gotten the Ark and taken it to that island, and opened it, and THOSE Nazis would have died…

    And then the Ark would have wound up in a US government warehouse in NY or DC, right?

    Do tell.

    Actually, Indy made thing worse. As I recall (it’s been a while since I last watched the movie), the original plan was for the Nazis to take the ark to Berlin and open it in the presence of Hitler. Indy talked them into opening it now so that they wouldn’t be embarrassed if it was empty.

    If the original plan was followed, Hitler dies, and no WWII.

     

    (If I’m wrong and Indy didn’t tell them to open it, then never mind).

     

     

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    • April 29, 2020, at 3:19 PM PDT
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  3. kedavis Member

    Actually it’s Belloq who apparently set up the “test” opening, but I think that was because he was hoping to use the Ark’s power for himself, as can be interpreted from other parts of the movie. And I don’t think there’s any reason to believe that Belloq came up with that only because of Indy being involved.

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    • April 29, 2020, at 5:13 PM PDT
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  4. kedavis Member

    Rob: “60% of Americans can work from home, and 40% can’t.”

    The 60% can work from home, and write articles about the 40% who can’t, until the 60% can’t get food at stores or delivered because the 40% aren’t making it possible.

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    • April 29, 2020, at 5:14 PM PDT
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  5. Arahant Member

    Well, that was long. I did like Jon’s Yogi Berra quote. Jonah and Rob had several funny moments.

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    • April 29, 2020, at 5:50 PM PDT
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  6. Arahant Member

    Also, the @jackbutler abuse is always golden, Rob.

     

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    • April 29, 2020, at 5:51 PM PDT
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  7. Al Sparks Thatcher

    The guys had an unironic moment when they were talking about the cheering for EMS workers done in New York at 7pm every day.

    In Britain, they are doing the same thing. But one of James Delingpole’s guests on his podcast the Delingpod had one guest that mentioned an uglier side of that where he lived. If you didn’t go out and cheer, it could be noted by the scolds who could give you grief for not participating.

    I hope that’s not going on in New York.

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    • April 29, 2020, at 8:21 PM PDT
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  8. Al Sparks Thatcher

    Al Sparks (View Comment):

    But one of James Delingpole’s guests on his podcast the Delingpod had one guest that mentioned an uglier side of that where he lived. If you didn’t go out and cheer, it could be noted by the scolds who could give you grief for not participating.

    And I just read this in National Review from a Brit on “Why I’m Not Clapping.”

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    • April 29, 2020, at 8:29 PM PDT
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  9. JackButler Podcaster

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Also, the @jackbutler abuse is always golden, Rob.

     

    Don’t I get a say in this? 

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    • April 30, 2020, at 2:57 PM PDT
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  10. Arahant Member

    JackButler (View Comment):
    Don’t I get a say in this? 

    You’ll take it and you’ll like it. 😜

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    • April 30, 2020, at 3:08 PM PDT
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  11. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Here is my half-baked idea. Viruses are easily spread inside enclosed spaces like planes and restaurants, etc. Would it be possible to devise a filter, possibly infused with some anti viral stuff that would kill the virus and insert it into HVAC systems? I was remembering how on flights into Australia the flight assistants would walk down the aisles and spray everyone with something. And the brutal Chinese drove trucks belching goodness knows what all over Wuhan. I am just wondering if a much less invasive measure based on the same principle would help with re-opening if it were possible. But for goodness sake, don’t tell Trump!

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    • April 30, 2020, at 5:56 PM PDT
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  12. Architectus Coolidge

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    Here is my half-baked idea. Viruses are easily spread inside enclosed spaces like planes and restaurants, etc. Would it be possible to devise a filter, possibly infused with some anti viral stuff that would kill the virus and insert it into HVAC systems? I was remembering how on flights into Australia the flight assistants would walk down the aisles and spray everyone with something. And the brutal Chinese drove trucks belching goodness knows what all over Wuhan. I am just wondering if a much less invasive measure based on the same principle would help with re-opening if it were possible. But for goodness sake, don’t tell Trump!

    We already have versions of this, but very expensive, and the issue of short-circuiting of air (that goes from patron to patron, not entering the HVAC system) would still be an issue. We can’t make every bar, restaurant and diner into a clean room. 

    Oh, and various versions tested have used UV light, much like the President spoke of, and was attacked for. Other contamination conditions have used automatic ‘disinfectant’ sprays, but that was for emergencies, not ongoing use.

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    • April 30, 2020, at 6:28 PM PDT
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  13. kedavis Member

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    Here is my half-baked idea. Viruses are easily spread inside enclosed spaces like planes and restaurants, etc. Would it be possible to devise a filter, possibly infused with some anti viral stuff that would kill the virus and insert it into HVAC systems? I was remembering how on flights into Australia the flight assistants would walk down the aisles and spray everyone with something. And the brutal Chinese drove trucks belching goodness knows what all over Wuhan. I am just wondering if a much less invasive measure based on the same principle would help with re-opening if it were possible. But for goodness sake, don’t tell Trump!

    Home systems can do that already, using carbon filters, electrostatic elements, and UV light. Some of that has been available for a long time. One of my aunts/uncles had an expensive setup for their whole home, in the 80s.

    You can get add-on UV light “sanitizing” stuff for home units too, which might cost $1,000 or more. But it might be best to get a system designed that way to start with. Goettl advertises them on a regular basis.

    https://www.goettl.com/articles/3-things-to-know-about-uv-germicidal-lights/

    Adapting that kind of technology to airlines might present unique problems.

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    • April 30, 2020, at 6:32 PM PDT
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  14. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    Architectus (View Comment):

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    Here is my half-baked idea. Viruses are easily spread inside enclosed spaces like planes and restaurants, etc. Would it be possible to devise a filter, possibly infused with some anti viral stuff that would kill the virus and insert it into HVAC systems? I was remembering how on flights into Australia the flight assistants would walk down the aisles and spray everyone with something. And the brutal Chinese drove trucks belching goodness knows what all over Wuhan. I am just wondering if a much less invasive measure based on the same principle would help with re-opening if it were possible. But for goodness sake, don’t tell Trump!

    We already have versions of this, but very expensive, and the issue of short-circuiting of air (that goes from patron to patron, not entering the HVAC system) would still be an issue. We can’t make every bar, restaurant and diner into a clean room.

    Oh, and various versions tested have used UV light, much like the President spoke of, and was attacked for. Other contamination conditions have used automatic ‘disinfectant’ sprays, but that was for emergencies, not ongoing use.

    I was thinking some kind of paper filters maybe made by someone like 3M on the intake and output grills that would be inexpensive and changed out regularly. But Trump was talking about getting UV light inside the body and deserved the attack. Sprays should certainly be used now as we certainly have an emergency condition. It is not about making clean rooms. Just maybe rooms less conducive to spreading the virus so effectively.

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    • April 30, 2020, at 6:35 PM PDT
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  15. Jon1979 Lincoln

    kedavis (View Comment):

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    Here is my half-baked idea. Viruses are easily spread inside enclosed spaces like planes and restaurants, etc. Would it be possible to devise a filter, possibly infused with some anti viral stuff that would kill the virus and insert it into HVAC systems? I was remembering how on flights into Australia the flight assistants would walk down the aisles and spray everyone with something. And the brutal Chinese drove trucks belching goodness knows what all over Wuhan. I am just wondering if a much less invasive measure based on the same principle would help with re-opening if it were possible. But for goodness sake, don’t tell Trump!

    Home systems can do that already, using carbon filters, electrostatic elements, and UV light. Some of that has been available for a long time. One of my aunts/uncles had an expensive setup for their whole home, in the 80s.

    You can get add-on UV light “sanitizing” stuff for home units too, which might cost $1,000 or more. But it might be best to get a system designed that way to start with. Goettl advertises them on a regular basis.

    https://www.goettl.com/articles/3-things-to-know-about-uv-germicidal-lights/

    Adapting that kind of technology to airlines might present unique problems.

    The people running the New York City subway system tested a UV germ-killing lighting system way back in 1949, because of the polio outbreak that hit New York and other parts of the U.S. in the late 1940s. The system didn’t work because it was too powerful, and fears were it might start killing off the passengers long-term, along with the polio virus. But you’d think with 71 years of additional time to work on the problem, an improved system could be designed (and noplace really needs a UV germ killing system more than the NYC subways…)

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  16. kylez Member
    kylezJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Bill Weir was the ABC 7 sports reporter in LA 20 years ago. 

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    • May 1, 2020, at 12:14 AM PDT
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  17. kedavis Member

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    The people running the New York City subway system tested a UV germ-killing lighting system way back in 1949, because of the polio outbreak that hit New York and other parts of the U.S. in the late 1940s. The system didn’t work because it was too powerful, and fears were it might start killing off the passengers long-term, along with the polio virus. But you’d think with 71 years of additional time to work on the problem, an improved system could be designed (and noplace really needs a UV germ killing system more than the NYC subways…)

    The home A/C systems don’t expose people to the UV light. Only the air.

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    • May 1, 2020, at 12:47 AM PDT
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  18. kylez Member
    kylezJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The dream sequence question needs to be defined. I don’t think Newhart counts, and neither would Wizard of Oz, since those are just reveals at the end that everything was a dream.

    After Jonah mentioned this last time, I saw a Japanese movie called Pale Flower. At least halfway into it there was suddenly this dream sequence that added nothing to what seemed a rather dated and overrated movie. (The 2 presenters on TCM sang its praises). What was weird was right before it there was narration “that night I had a dream.” But there had been no narration up to that point, and none after it.

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  19. EJHill Podcaster
    EJHillJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    JuliaBlaschke: But Trump was talking about getting UV light inside the body and deserved the attack.

    Yes. He most assuredly deserves to be attacked for talking about emerging technologies. From Nurse.com:

    …Aytu BioScience, Inc. has partnered with Cedars-Sinai to develop and commercialize its Healight Platform Technology, commonly known as “Healight”. The Healight technology delivers intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light through an endotracheal catheter and according to the company, it is being studied as a potential treatment for coronavirus and other respiratory infections.

    First developed in 2016 by the research team of the Medically Associated Science and Technology (MAST) Program at Cedars-Sinai and led by Mark Pimentel, MD, Healight has shown potential as an effective antiviral and antibacterial treatment. The device uses UVA light, because of all three forms of UV light, UVA has been shown to have the least amount of harm to mammalian cells while still killing viral and bacterial cells.

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  20. Jon1979 Lincoln

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Jon1979 (View Comment):
    The people running the New York City subway system tested a UV germ-killing lighting system way back in 1949, because of the polio outbreak that hit New York and other parts of the U.S. in the late 1940s. The system didn’t work because it was too powerful, and fears were it might start killing off the passengers long-term, along with the polio virus. But you’d think with 71 years of additional time to work on the problem, an improved system could be designed (and noplace really needs a UV germ killing system more than the NYC subways…)

    The home A/C systems don’t expose people to the UV light. Only the air.

    They couldn’t get an A/C system to work in the NYC subways correctly until the late 1960s, so apparently the UV lights they tried in ’49 were just pointed down inside the car at the grab bars, doors, seats … and the passengers. Seven-plus decades later, you’d think someone might have figured out a way to improve that system.

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  21. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    EJHill (View Comment):

    JuliaBlaschke: But Trump was talking about getting UV light inside the body and deserved the attack.

    Yes. He most assuredly deserves to be attacked for talking about emerging technologies. From Nurse.com:

    …Aytu BioScience, Inc. has partnered with Cedars-Sinai to develop and commercialize its Healight Platform Technology, commonly known as “Healight”. The Healight technology delivers intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light through an endotracheal catheter and according to the company, it is being studied as a potential treatment for coronavirus and other respiratory infections.

    First developed in 2016 by the research team of the Medically Associated Science and Technology (MAST) Program at Cedars-Sinai and led by Mark Pimentel, MD, Healight has shown potential as an effective antiviral and antibacterial treatment. The device uses UVA light, because of all three forms of UV light, UVA has been shown to have the least amount of harm to mammalian cells while still killing viral and bacterial cells.

    Dr. Trump should leave the talk about emerging technologies to people who can form coherent sentences and know what they are talking about.

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  22. Eustace C. Scrubb Member

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Well, that was long. I did like Jon’s Yogi Berra quote. Jonah and Rob had several funny moments.

    Thanks for the warning. I was trying to decide and looked at the comments, this one in particular and then at 103 minutes and… many other podcasts (on Ricochet and off) I need to catch up with.

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  23. Taras Coolidge

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    EJHill (View Comment):

    JuliaBlaschke: But Trump was talking about getting UV light inside the body and deserved the attack.

    Yes. He most assuredly deserves to be attacked for talking about emerging technologies. From Nurse.com:

    …Aytu BioScience, Inc. has partnered with Cedars-Sinai to develop and commercialize its Healight Platform Technology, commonly known as “Healight”. The Healight technology delivers intermittent ultraviolet (UV) A light through an endotracheal catheter and according to the company, it is being studied as a potential treatment for coronavirus and other respiratory infections.

    First developed in 2016 by the research team of the Medically Associated Science and Technology (MAST) Program at Cedars-Sinai and led by Mark Pimentel, MD, Healight has shown potential as an effective antiviral and antibacterial treatment. The device uses UVA light, because of all three forms of UV light, UVA has been shown to have the least amount of harm to mammalian cells while still killing viral and bacterial cells.

    Dr. Trump should leave the talk about emerging technologies to people who can form coherent sentences and know what they are talking about.

     

    @juliablaschke — Sometimes it’s better to eschew the Parthian shot and simply admit you were wrong.

     I was wrong, too! I thought what Trump was suggesting was far-fetched — until I started thinking about how radiation is routinely used as a medical treatment.

     I certainly didn’t know such a device already existed!

     

     

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  24. Charlotte Member
    CharlotteJoined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    Best line was @roblong telling @jackbutler that he should star in a David Koresh biopic. 😂😂😂

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    • May 4, 2020, at 11:45 AM PDT
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