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Live from the Nieuw Amersterdam showroom, it’s special Mad Dogs and Englishmen (that’s Charles C.W. Cooke and Kevin Williamson) and GLoP (that’s Jonah Goldberg and John Podhoretz — Rob Long couldn’t make it this year) mashup. Won’t divulge the topics here, but there’s laughs and insights a plenty and a good time was had by most.
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I liked this podcast. I didn’t think it was touched by a reverse Midas.
This needs to become a more regular thing – so, so good…
As a person who doesn’t speak English as first language, its nice hear how Charlie and John pronounce.
Very enjoyable and funny. The two podcast should get together more often
I’m a devoted subscriber to GLoP Culture, but in this episode I found the chemistry strained and cringe-worthy, and the frequent silence from the cruise-line audience only deepened the strain.
Let GLoP Culture and Mad Dogs be what they are for their respective audiences. The sum, at least in moments of humor and wit, was not greater than its parts.
I agree with Douglas – listening to this was physically painful.
Charles came across like a nasty, unfunny, odious, try-hard, boor. It was only because of John’s good natured decency that the podcast was listenable at all.
I say this as someone who has enjoyed Mad Dogs and Englishmen for months. I had grown quite fond of Charlie until I heard him here. Either he fooled me before and he is a genuinely revolting person – or this was out of character.
I fear that it’s the first.
When the humblebragging about the costs of virtue signalling is the highlight … not great.
Remember that Martin & Lewis and Burns & Allen mashup? There’s a good reason you don’t.
Do you ever drink at a bar with working class white guys? This was nothing.
As a fan of both GLOP and Mad Dogs and Englishmen, I have to say – not great. Drunk podcasting – sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. (I’m looking straight at you, Charlie). Not everyone becomes more charming the more they drink (I do – Drunk Closet Subversive is a hoot!) Having said that, I give props for doing it. These guys are not comedians or entertainers but pundits attempting to entertain a live audience. Didn’t work this time. Maybe next time will be better.
With regard to Jonah’s comment about the Clinton Foundation now having to do some good, I would submit that it already has – it kept Hillary from becoming President.
With? I AM a working class white guy. What do think the outcome would have been if he’d behaved like this in a working class bar?
I think that the two regular podcasts are generally better scripted ahead of time so there is an agenda to work through. I also think that there has been a lot of tiptoeing around on the cruise to stay away from “offensive” topics in the name of Conservative Unity.
There were a few funny moments.
I thought it was all good-natured and drunken [chop]-busting. It was also a mess, but sometimes entertainingly so.
This podcast blew like a fog horn. From Charlie brow-beating John to Kevin correcting everyone and making fun of the ad copy (it’s not like you guys couldn’t benefit from some critical analysis of your own podcast) to John and Jonah seeming to hold back conversationally, it wasn’t fun at all. I mostly didn’t get the need to keep away from certain topics (unnamed but I’m guessing the election). I subscribe to Ricochet for the podcasts, from which I learn a lot. I would have loved to hear what the guys think now: have we entered the end times or might some happy days be at hand?
First one I listened to in a year.
I fear the suppressed arrogance at having to explain that they were still right all along and will always be right about THE IMPORTANT STUFF was a bit much. I hope the cruise gives them all a nice participation trophy.
Now I can go back to the bliss of other podcasts, like HWX.
Note to Jonah, who was complaining(?) about Scott Adams endorsing Hillary:
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states
Are you from the South or the Midwest where people are polite?
Weird. My wife and I were in the audience, and thought it was very funny. Guess you had to be there . . .
Note:
No links to piracy websites are allowed.Look, you seem to be misunderstanding me. I’m not saying that Charlie was aggressive – just that he was, by far, the worst of the performers – supercilious and unfunny. He’s not a comedian so its no shock that his ribbing just came across as nasty. As a result Charlie won’t be getting of my money. [redacted] This is my last contribution on the subject.
He also later changed his endorsement to Trump: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150919416661/why-i-switched-my-endorsement-from-clinton-to
For the record. Cc: @simonroberts
Just for the record, English people insult each other as naturally as breathing.
Henry Castaigne:
You’re right of course – and very perceptive from all the way over there in the USA. Did you get that from an article you read somewhere or are you extrapolating from an episode of Fawlty Towers you saw? I’m English BTW.
Let me reiterate – I’m sure it was meant as ribbing but it was so clumsy that it came across as nasty. It’s immaterial though – whether it was meant as ribbing but was so pathetic that he had everybody cringing, or was actually meant to be nasty makes no difference. Either way he’s off my Christmas card list.
Take away his ‘ribbing’ and what you’re left with is him bragging about how much he was drinking and finishing statements with “deal with it” like a mentally challenged teenager.
Simon, is it generally your view that those who do not make you laugh should have their property rights stripped?
I can understand not reading more of him (you’d be missing out; this not being a great show was something of an anomaly). I don’t understand stealing his work or inciting others to do so.
For some reason an audience made up of predominantly Trump voters expected 4 determined and contemptuous NeverTrumpers to entertain them with good humor and self-deprecation in a venue where the quartet did not have to pay for their own drinks.
Please, please, please remember: NeverTrump never dies.
Short answer: consequences. I’m not religious so the consequences need to be temporal to satisfy me.
I’ll continue to read and listen because he often makes good points but, as Mark Steyn said about Jo Moore, “we know you now”.
I LOLed my way through this episode. It wasn’t content rich, but do we not all deserve a little respite after the election? It sounded like friends riffing on each other on a Friday night after you’ve had a few. Lighten up guys.
Signed,
One of those Awful Millennials