New York Values

It’s been a while since the men of GLoP did a mostly politics-centric podcast, and with the primaries looming, now seems like the time to do it. So, strap yourself in for an audio romp through the state of the race, both on the right and on the left. Also, what happens if Hillary is indicted? A GLoP investigation. And why hasn’t the press been tougher on Trump? Another GLoP investigation. Also, Star Wars reviews and Rob gets a Yiddish lesson. Oy vey.

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  1. Yeah...ok. Inactive
    Yeah...ok.
    @Yeahok

    That’s not EJ’s work, is it?

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  2. Luke Thatcher
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    @Luke

    it’s unsettlingly disappointing that in post, cruz didn’t finish the quote before the hit… Just saying.

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  3. Benjamin Glaser Inactive
    Benjamin Glaser
    @BenjaminGlaser

    Only two mentions for Rockers?

    No Lemmy? Speaking of out of touch…

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  4. EJHill Podcaster
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    Yeah…ok.: That’s not EJ’s work, is it?

    Why do you ask? If you like it, yeah, it’s mine. If not… It was my evil twin.

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  5. The Unreasonable Man Coolidge
    The Unreasonable Man
    @TheUnreasonableMan

    The Occam’s razor remark was oh so close to a Harry’s segue, and yet it fell just short…

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  6. Judge Mental Member
    Judge Mental
    @JudgeMental

    “You know what else is a problem for Americans… their whiskers”.

    Lileks has nothing on you, John.

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  7. Hank Rhody Contributor
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    @HankRhody

    EJHill:

    Yeah…ok.: That’s not EJ’s work, is it?

    Why do you ask? If you like it, yeah, it’s mine. If not… It was my evil twin.

    You’ve got an evil twin too? Me I’ve been dancing to the mad beatz of DJ Hill.

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  8. Hank Rhody Contributor
    Hank Rhody
    @HankRhody

    Judge Mental:“You know what else is a problem for Americans… their whiskers”.

    Lileks has nothing on you, John.

    You hear how many times Rob interrupted Podhoretz? I think he may have had a spat with James.

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  9. Randy Webster Inactive
    Randy Webster
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    I guess Rob never saw The Sting.  That’s where I learned what a ganef is.

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  10. The Question Inactive
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    I haven’t finished listening yet, but I think that your take on talk radio hosts, Mark Levin in particular, is exactly right.  I think he liked Trump as a weapon against against the establishment, but now that Trump is really hurting Cruz, starting with the Palin endorsement, he is swerving to criticizing Trump.  I couldn’t figure out why Levin didn’t seem to be bothered by Trump’s lack of conservatism.  It’s all starting to make sense finally.  I fear that Levin, and some others, may have waited too long to start attacking Trump.

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  11. Benjamin Glaser Inactive
    Benjamin Glaser
    @BenjaminGlaser

    A killer tune I had not heard in a long time.

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  12. T Inactive
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    (I think it was) Goldberg wonders who listens to talk radio – thinks they must be people without jobs. Perhaps some people have jobs where they can listen to the radio while working. Perhaps some people listen to the podcasts of radio shows. Can’t imagine people with jobs listening to podcasts… oh, wait.

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  13. La Tapada Member
    La Tapada
    @LaTapada

    Another dated reference: the upcoming live podcast will be available to listen to because it will also be “on tape.”

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  14. GirlWithAPearl Inactive
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    Great discussion as always. Re: talk radio heads playing footsie with trump…yes. And now they’ve whipped up a mob fueled by mindless contempt and half baked ideas and wonder how to walk it back. There is zero ability among this mob to imagine how they’re perceived by ordinary ppl…I know bc I have close relatives who’ve succumbed to the madness over the past year, making last Christmas an utter disaster.

    With four years perspective since cutting cable tee vee I can honestly say my brain is different, and far less vulnerable to bouts of frustrated outrage. This led also to complete inability to tolerate the slooow, cryptic, teasing, propaganda laden monologues of Rush Limbaugh. Rush would benefit from some actual conversation with, say, a charming squish like rob long. He would be more likable with some of Jonahs banter to offset and illuminate ideas, and he would prolly retire if he spent one week with JPod as a co host, due to inability to keep up. Rush’s world has narrowed and dulled along with the loss of his hearing, for which I have empathy but little tolerance. Never could stand or understand mark levin so at least I don’t have that scourge to purge.

    Now we listen to John batchelor at night, ricochet podcasts and a ton of history stuff (get pritzker military podcasts!) and another ton of Lutheran theology. We subscribe to Michael medved and think he’s one of the few who will survive the dwindling radio market. Also Klavan lately (he gives us the far right view with humor and without the mean) and let me also recommend the relatively new since April I think Eric Metaxas show….it is great fun, retro music, virtuous and surprising guests and he is truly truly funny and unmean. Oh forgot to mention the quickies from the weekly standard and one of the up and comers with the greatest voice ever – Ben domenech’s daily podcasts on the federalist. And there you’ll also get to hear Mollie Hemingway, who I miss around here, now and then. Those kids (to me) at federalist provide a link to the younger generations thinking, with emphasis on thinking. And current culture too.

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  15. Mate De Inactive
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    My first job out of college was for Hanjin Shipping, doing the stow plans for the container ships. The concept is much more exciting then in practice.

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  16. La Tapada Member
    La Tapada
    @LaTapada

    GirlWithAPearl:… John Batchelor … ricochet podcasts … pritzker military podcasts … Lutheran theology … Michael medved … Klavan …  Eric Metaxas show … quickies from the weekly standard … Ben domenech’s daily podcasts on the federalist …

    What a lot of great ideas. Thanks!

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  17. Douglas Inactive
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    I’m glad to see that the boys at least understand why people are rebelling, and not just ascribing it to mindless stupidity, as so many on the right side of punditry seem to be doing. When even Amanda Marcotte… yes, that Amanda Marcotte… when even she has better insight into what’s going on (flawed as it still is) than NR does, then we’re not in Kansas anymore, Toto.

    The big release of the latest National Review edition, with a cover declaring “Against Trump,” on Thursday night was above all other things a wonderful gift not just to liberals, but anyone who lives outside of the conservative tribe. Because it gives us a glimpse, however temporary, of what it feels like to be a Trump supporter. I defy readers to take one look at the cover and not feel an overwhelming surge of contempt for these establishment conservatives who love to pander to the camo-crowd when it suits them, but get fussy when the rubes rise up and start demanding real skin in the game. You want to rub their smug little faces right in Donald Trump’s ridiculous hair and ask how they like those apples.

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  18. Jonah Goldberg Member
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    T:(I think it was) Goldberg wonders who listens to talk radio – thinks they must be people without jobs. Perhaps some people have jobs where they can listen to the radio while working. Perhaps some people listen to the podcasts of radio shows. Can’t imagine people with jobs listening to podcasts… oh, wait.

    Just for the record, that was John. I actually listen to more talk radio these days than ever before — and I have several jobs!

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  19. Chris Campion Coolidge
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    @ChrisCampion

    Great outro.

    Also, to put a smile on the lads’ faces, and hopefully to remove the pain I feel from my back every morning, I just ordered a Casper mattress.  In true Podhoretzian fashion, if the mattress doesn’t live up to the hype, there will be no end to the constant complaining I will post on Ricochet, Twitter, and Facebook.

    Lives are on the line here, gentlemen.  Stay frosty.

    Oh, and put a cork in it with Star Wars complaints.  Did you enjoy the movie?  Yes?  Then move on.

    And embrace the radness that is Starkiller Base:

    star killa

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  20. Blue Yeti Admin
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    @BlueYeti

    Fact check: it’s actually Rob who makes the point about talk radio listeners at 15:45.

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  21. Charlotte Member
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    @Charlotte

    Ricochet Audio Network: It’s been a while since the men of GLoP did a mostly politics-centric podcast, and with the primaries looming, now seems like the time to do it.

    Eh, nothing wrong with sticking to pop culture either. We can get politics anywhere.

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  22. Ed G. Member
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    Trump is and was pretty easy to explain.

    1. The last 5 Republican nominees have not been conservative. Or at least that’s the perception that’s built up. I think it’s debatable. The perception being what it is, though, how is Trump’s non-conservatism any different than the last five nominees?
    2. Since the Gingrich years, conservatives have gotten squat.
    3. All along, the line to conservatives has been: we need to play it cagey, so support the weak candidates (in several senses) in order to avoid complete catastrophe; half a loaf is better than nothing. That’s still the line and people are unsatisfied with it. So why is a quarter of a loaf from Trump all of the sudden a huge offense to conservatism? Why is this small portion all of the sudden too much to swallow?
    4. With Trump, he is better on right/Republican terms than either Hillary or Bernie, he is electable, and he does have an appealing style – though obviously poison to some.
    5. Sneering has always been the wrong response to Trump. In direct attacks he can easily parry and counterattack – it’s a preternatural skill of his. More importantly, though, the sneering has spilled over to those disaffected enough to even sniff around Trump in the first place. Our side really has been incompetent, timid, and beholden. And just because it’s not a formal club with dues and ID cards doesn’t mean that the establishment is a figment of the imagination.
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  23. Douglas Inactive
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    Ed G.:Trump is and was pretty easy to explain.

    1. Since the Gingrich years, conservatives have gotten squat.

    Agree on all your points, and I’d like to add this: of the victories the Right has gotten in the past dozen years, Heller is the only really big one, and let’s keep in mind, that was initiated not via the GOP or Congress or POTUS, but by a couple of guys that started lawsuits to settle the issue. Outside of the political process. The NRA, with their “surrender on nothing” tactics deserves far more credit on gun rights than any GOP politician. The GOP would be better off if they emulated them.

    Secondly, when we did have political victories via Congress, they were minor, and often led by conservative insurgents against the establishment leadership of their own party. Recall the odious Law of the Sea Treaty, that everyone from Dubya to Condoleeza to the Chamber of Commerce wanted on the Right side of politics. It took an insurgency led by Jim DeMint… an outsider even in his own party…. and we barely cleared the 34 vote threshold to kill the treaty. Meanwhile, the usual suspects such as Lisa Murkowski pimped it as hard as they could (and promised to bring it back again and again until they got what they wanted). So even when conservatives won something, very often, they not only had to fight the Democrats but the leadership of their own party.

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  24. T Inactive
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    Jonah Goldberg:

    T:(I think it was) Goldberg wonders who listens to talk radio – thinks they must be people without jobs. Perhaps some people have jobs where they can listen to the radio while working. Perhaps some people listen to the podcasts of radio shows. Can’t imagine people with jobs listening to podcasts… oh, wait.

    Just for the record, that was John. I actually listen to more talk radio these days than ever before — and I have several jobs!

    Just saw this, thank you Jonah (and then Blue Yeti) for the fact check. For the record, I was taking the piss a little bit here.

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