Ricochet is the best place on the internet to discuss the issues of the day, either through commenting on posts or writing your own for our active and dynamic community in a fully moderated environment. In addition, the Ricochet Audio Network offers over 50 original podcasts with new episodes released every day.
It’s relatively rare when one story becomes so omnipresent in the culture that we devote almost an entire episode to it. But that’s the case this week when the men of GLoP gingerly step in the Harvey Weinstein story. There’s no good, only bad and ugly in this one. Also, a bit about Jimmy Kimmel’s clown nose on, clown nose off behavior of late and his puzzling statement that he is indifferent to Republican members of his audience. Unlike us.
Subscribe to GLoP Culture in Apple Podcasts (and leave a 5-star review, please!), or by RSS feed. For all our podcasts in one place, subscribe to the Ricochet Audio Network Superfeed in Apple Podcasts or by RSS feed.
I quit watching any late night shows when they got rid of Jay Leno. I don’t believe any of them are remotely fair. I was always ticked off that none of them ever really seemed to let Obama have it… I guess I still like Conan, but I don’t really watch him.
I saw Jocular Enabling open for the Mighty Mighty Bosstones in 95….
Great show business analysis by everyone! I’ve been looking forward to hear from Rob re: Weinstein and Kimmel. Also, I love the Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer reference.
Thanks to YouTube and Hulu, it’s easier to watch interesting clips from the late night shows rather than sit through the whole thing, hoping for something entertaining.
It’s an incredible time-saver. I’d be surprised if I watch more than twenty minutes of all late night material in an average week. Colbert and Seth Meyers are completely off the radar. Conan and Fallon I’ll skim from time to time. Kimmel, maybe if a clip is getting buzz.
I enjoyed this podcast episode. I’m going to have to check it out more.
Everybody knew … except for this lady and her husband apparently. You’d think maybe someone might have warned them about sending their daughter off to intern for ol’ Harvey.
Great show guys. I could have done with less whining at the end about being Rino’s. I think the issue with being in media or entertainment is that you are stuck in the twitterverse. Who cares what they call you
That demo has been asleep for hours by the time Late Night TV is on. Just saying.
Another outstanding effort GLoPers. Too long in between episodes…….
Not sure what you’re getting at there. Are you saying that the Trump voters are all seniors? Because while he did better with voters as they got older, he still won whites in the 30-44 demo (albeit not by a lot), and he got about 38% of those 18-29.
No, gents, Harvey Weinstein is not Duddy Kravitz. He’s not Alexander Portnoy. He’s not Sammy Glick. He’s not any of the amoral go-getters of your high school reading lists.
Harvey Weinstein, to use another phrase from those English classes, is of this time and of that place. He’s rich beyond the dreams of avarice, not some bourgeois schlepper. He’s politically super-connected, not some outsider trying to get into the WASP country club. He’s a “feminist,” a position totally unknown to Portnoy, Glick and Kravitz, but one that is mandatory for the American Establishment.
Anyone attempting to understand Weinstein must see him in this world, his world, not in the World of Our Fathers.
The hardcore MAGA demo skews much older. Last gasp revenge of the Boomers.
Hey Rob! I ordered “Bigly” today! Thanks.
Tartuffe? Stop flaunting that Ivy-league French degree, Rob. Oh, and I read “Bigly” today- may I recommend “Conversations with my Agent”, by the same author? They are both very funny, thanks.
Pretty sure the Tartuffe reference was John’s. It’s actually a play I’ve been meaning to read for decades now, and will hopefully get around to this fall.
Leno used to be known as one of the best stand ups in America, a true “comedian’s comedian” back before he got the Tonight Show gig. Then of course he became a much more populist and bland comedian but this helped to sustain The Tonight Show’s ratings. It was a calculated decision but pragmatically speaking, it made perfect sense. Whatever.
I never really minded him even after he became vanilla (and far less funny), and always believed he was a nice guy. Maybe he is. But my respect for him dropped precipitously when I saw him defending the SJWs at the University of Missouri on the Bill Maher show a couple years back. Until then, I actually believed he had more sense than to think well of those idiots. But I was wrong.
Our problem would be the “1/2 Hour News Hour” problem in that we’d try to go hard the other way, and the problem with “Right wing” comedy is the same: more dogma than comedy.
I work in the outer realms of comedy. Comedy should be about making fun of stuff you hate in addition to being able to “kill your darlings”
Jimmy Fallon gets it but went the opposite, he went the Ellen/Rosie O’Donnell “let’s just be silly” route. There’s a place for a good late night comedy show that isn’t campaigning. But it would have to be done well, and the other thing is your host would have to be evasive in interviews and say “We make fun of everyone”
Sorry. Disagree. The pitchforks are out now. The torches are burning. The militancy is so fevered that anything less than total obeisance to the Progressive party line is considered heresy.
The only late night show I liked was Craig Ferguson’s. Even if I disagreed with him, he always seemed to have thought about whatever it was he was talking about, and could deal with the idea that you, the viewer, might disagree, and that was OK. Plus he is really funny.
J-Go: I thoroughly enjoyed the pop stars-as-aristocracy discussion! I find that these historical analogies can generate interesting discussion, and make people think in new ways about themselves and our politics.
For example, it shocks the sensibilities of SJWs when they’re first confronted by the idea that they might represent this era’s Red-Baiting McCarthyites. Just because the target of attack has changed doesn’t mean the impulse is any different.
Being denied the right to purchase an outsized soft drink by liberal do-gooders reminds me of nothing so much as the apocryphal Puritan who worried that someone, somewhere, might be having a good time.
Most react with indignation (Allan Bloom wrote in the Closing of the American Mind: “Indignation is the soul’s defense against the wound of doubt about its own”), but some will stop and think.
Let’s just pray that President Trump isn’t the Kaiser Wilhelm of our day.
It sounded to me like slurping the last of a chocolate shake through a straw. It makes me sad because there is no more chocolate shake, and then sadder because I did not have any of the shake.
It was an issue with Rob’s mic. We tried to EQ it out, but it made the rest of the show sound terrible. And we couldn’t stop to fix it, because we were on a very tight schedule with this show. But we know what it was and I don’t think it will happen again. Sorry!