Cool

In a recent G-File, Jonah (the “G” in GLoP) wrote that “conservatives need to get over their insecurities about not being cool in the eyes of liberals.” Do we need our own Daily Show or Colbert Report? Do we already have them? Also, does the Left really have a monopoly on storytelling today  Does it matter? Listen to what our learned hosts have to say on the topic and then weigh in below.  

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  1. twvolck Inactive
    twvolck
    @twvolck

    Not Augustus’s birth; he died 2000 years ago, in 14 A.D.

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  2. ParisParamus Inactive
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    @ParisParamus

    The meaning of the music at the end?

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  3. Goddess of Discord Member
    Goddess of Discord
    @GoddessofDiscord

    ParisParamus:

    The meaning of the music at the end?

     High on a feeling, that you’re in love with me–  I’m cool!  At least that’s what I thought.

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  4. Goddess of Discord Member
    Goddess of Discord
    @GoddessofDiscord

    Ah, the Clinton- Lewinsky thing. Good times. My kids were just the right age for that. However, it seemed to go over their head. When I lamented that it was such a hot topic while she was in elementary school, my daughter said she really didn’t remember.

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  5. Goddess of Discord Member
    Goddess of Discord
    @GoddessofDiscord

    What was the book series that John and Rob liked? I’m always on a walk or driving and can’t jot it down.

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  6. Blue Yeti Admin
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    @BlueYeti

    ParisParamus:

    The meaning of the music at the end?

     The song has a prominent role in Guardians of The Galaxy. 

    I know, a little obscure,  but I was late in getting the show out and I have a soft spot for the tune, and don’t believe I’ve ever used it before.  

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  7. doc molloy Inactive
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    @docmolloy

    Posted this earlier on member feed. Apropos of nothing.. another time, another place..
    June Christy live at the Playboy Penthouse 1959 with Something Cool.. These are the Mad Men days.. the glamour, the cigarette style and cocktail cool.. How would it be seen today? Especially by the Hollywood stylised confused liberal set..

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  8. BuckeyeSam Inactive
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    @BuckeyeSam

    Speaking of conspiracies, I always get a kick out of this exchange in Shooter.

    Two schmendricks. I love it.

    You three are talking about cool, and Jonah hit on it. Conservatives need to assume and project the I-could-give-a-rat’s-ass-about-cool of people like Reagan, John Wayne, Robert Mitchum, today’s Gary Sinise. I’m sure there are others. But something they seem to have in common is that they don’t insist on calling attention to themselves.

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  9. GingerMa Member
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    @GingerMa

    All I could think about during the cool talk was Greg Gutfeld’s book Not Cool. It’s a pretty fun read about this very subject.

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  10. doc molloy Inactive
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    @docmolloy

    ParisParamus:

    The meaning of the music at the end?

     Ouga Chaka ouga! …. BJ Thomas Hooked on a Feeling straight back to 68… Cool

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  11. doc molloy Inactive
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    @docmolloy

    BuckeyeSam: schmendricks

     you know this for a fact? …still got the shovel..  schmendricks.. Love it.

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  12. kmtanner Inactive
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    @kmtanner

    If popular culture and MSM liberal, I wonder was Jay Leno liberal at all? He made fun of Obama and for OJ trial result. And he was famous and funny.

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  13. A Beleaguered Conservative Member
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    Throughout this and other podcasts, Rob Long continually makes comments just under his breath.  I have only one thing to say about this:  the comments are hilarious!

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  14. kylez Member
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    @kylez

    doc molloy:

    Posted this earlier on member feed. Apropos of nothing.. another time, another place.. June Christy live at the Playboy Penthouse 1959 with Something Cool.. These are the Mad Men days.. the glamour, the cigarette style and cocktail cool.. How would it be seen today? Especially by the Hollywood stylised confused liberal set..

     ironically called the penthouse. 

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  15. ParisParamus Inactive
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    @ParisParamus

    doc molloy:

    ParisParamus:

    The meaning of the music at the end?

    Ouga Chaka ouga! …. BJ Thomas Hooked on a Feeling straight back to 68… Cool

     Uh… the song is from 1974.

    I was almost going to see the film.  But now it sounds too much like a spoof.

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  16. otherdeanplace@yahoo.com Member
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    @EustaceCScrubb

    BuckeyeSam, Steve McQueen the King of Cool was a Republican.

    ParisParamus – the soundtrack is used to quite ingenious effect. There is a good reason why the songs are from the seventies.

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  17. user_473455 Inactive
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    @BenjaminGlaser

    The discussion about commercials was spot on. It is not so much the “violence” in commercials, but ED and female hygiene ads on Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

    We dropped cable primarily because of the commercials, moving to Netflix/Amazon Prime where we can more directly control content.

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  18. user_444739 Inactive
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    @OmidMoghadam

    Goddess of Discord:

    What was the book series that John and Rob liked? I’m always on a walk or driving and can’t jot it down.

    Series of  books by Alan Furst, like Spies of Warsaw, Mission to Paris, etc. Spies of Warsaw was made into a very good mini-series by the BBC starring David Tenantt of Dr Who fame.

    BBCDVD3687-SPIES OF WARSAW-cmyk

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  19. gts109 Inactive
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    Great podcast. I look forward to it each month! Wish you would do more.

    Jonah has a strong point about conservative values embedded in a lot of “liberal” cultural product. Like the Wire. I’m re-watching Season 4, and just finished last night “That’s Got His Own,” the season’s penultimate episode.

    The 4th season focuses on four inner city, middle school boys, who are childhood friends. As they enter adolescence, their lives all go bad to varying degrees, but it’s striking that not one of the boys is in a two parent home or has a worthy father figure. The surrogate father figures in the show (police, ministers, teachers, a local boxing coach) all fail to act as a true father would, protecting their children from a harsh world and nurturing them too. You can interpret the 4th Season as a polemic against the disintegration of the nuclear family in the inner city. Accompanying the fall of the family is the rise of liberal, Democratic government institutions to replace the family unit. They utterly fail at their job, and drug dealers are left as the dominant cultural force.

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  20. user_337201 Inactive
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    @EricWallace

    Small correction: Ham radio operators are licensed by the FCC. The analogy works better for CB or “Family Radio Service” operators – unlicensed spectrum.

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  21. Tom Meyer Contributor
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    Omid Moghadam:

    Goddess of Discord:

    What was the book series that John and Rob liked? I’m always on a walk or driving and can’t jot it down.

    Series of books by Alan Furst, like Spies of Warsaw, Mission to Paris, etc. Spies of Warsaw was made into a very good mini-series by the BBC starring David Tenantt of Dr Who fame.

    BBCDVD3687-SPIES OF WARSAW-cmyk

    Just catching up on the podcast and want to throw-out yet another endorsement of Furst’s novels.  I particularly enjoyed “The World At Night” and “Red Gold,” which concern a French film producer who very reluctantly discovers himself a patriot and becomes involved with various resistance cells.

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  22. C. U. Douglas Thatcher
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    @CUDouglas

    GingerMa:

    All I could think about during the cool talk was Greg Gutfeld’s book Not Cool. It’s a pretty fun read about this very subject.

    Funny, they mentioned looking for the “Republican John Stewart” and Greg Gutfeld’s “Red Eye” pretty much fills that void without really trying to be precisely that, and it’s a lot more fun as well.

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  23. doc molloy Inactive
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    @docmolloy

    ParisParamus:

    doc molloy:

    ParisParamus:

    The meaning of the music at the end?

    Ouga Chaka ouga! …. BJ Thomas Hooked on a Feeling straight back to 68… Cool

    Uh… the song is from 1974.

    I was almost going to see the film. But now it sounds too much like a spoof.

     Correct. That version is ’74.. I did think BJ doing the Ouga Chaka bit was odd.. age, it gets ya.. But I liked it all the same.

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  24. GingerMa Member
    GingerMa
    @GingerMa

    C. U. Douglas:

    GingerMa:

    All I could think about during the cool talk was Greg Gutfeld’s book Not Cool. It’s a pretty fun read about this very subject.

    Funny, they mentioned looking for the “Republican John Stewart” and Greg Gutfeld’s “Red Eye” pretty much fills that void without really trying to be precisely that, and it’s a lot more fun as well.

     I thought the same thing. I only really watch The Five for Greg’s monologues, or Gregologues if you will. 

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  25. GingerMa Member
    GingerMa
    @GingerMa

    Omid Moghadam:

    Goddess of Discord:

    What was the book series that John and Rob liked? I’m always on a walk or driving and can’t jot it down.

    Series of books by Alan Furst, like Spies of Warsaw, Mission to Paris, etc. Spies of Warsaw was made into a very good mini-series by the BBC starring David Tenantt of Dr Who fame.

    Who is this Dr Who, I know of a Doctor Who ;)

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  26. Petty Boozswha Inactive
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    I do think we could use our version of Colbert if only because there is 20 times as much PC “truthiness” we could attack. I think the closest thing to it we have is James O’Keefe, Dennis Miller had promise but I don’t know what happened to him.

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  27. C. U. Douglas Thatcher
    C. U. Douglas
    @CUDouglas

    Petty Boozswha:

    I do think we could use our version of Colbert if only because there is 20 times as much PC “truthiness” we could attack. I think the closest thing to it we have is James O’Keefe, Dennis Miller had promise but I don’t know what happened to him.

    I find it’s better to allow things to happen naturally. In the 90’s, liberals were all flustered by Rush and were trying to find “The Left’s Answer to Rush.” It never really worked, even when they tried to create a whole radio network full.

    The Daily Show started as a news-spoof with Craig Kilborn, who went on to other things. The show was handed off to John Stewart and stayed news spoof but drifted to where it was today. At least to appearances, they didn’t set out saying, “Let’s create a fake news show that endorses liberal opinions and mocks conservative ones.” It was more or less a natural process.

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  28. The Cloaked Gaijin Member
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    @TheCloakedGaijin

    The Facts of Life are conservative,” said Margaret Thatcher after watching the episode where Tootie and Natalie catch Blair and Jo drinking at a bar.

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  29. thebeekeeperkissedme Inactive
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    From what film was that dialogue at the intro? Seymour Hoffman was great.

    === Update, I am told it’s him as character Lester Bangs from Almost Famous.

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  30. Foxfier Inactive
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    @Foxfier

    So… to sum up the discussion on liberal media… TV isn’t liberal because it usually sticks to reality, which is pretty conservative, and only puts in counter-factuals to support liberal junk?

    So they’re telling liberal stories in a reality-based setting, but they get to change things so liberalism actually works, and is emotionally satisfying.

    That sounds like it’s liberal to me….

    Also, I know at least one of those countless nearly identical police shows had an abortion sub-plot– married woman with kids found out she’s pregnant, husband is delighted and supportive, she killed the kid.  Because that’s empowering, or something.  Saw it at my folks’ place.

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