GLoP In The Time of Corona

Here on the mighty GLoP Podcast, we were social distancing long before social distancing was cool. Usually by at least a few hundred miles. As you would expect, this one is a riff on a single topic: interpretative dance and its effect on western civilization. Nah, you know what the GLoP-heads are going to freestyle on this week. So, wash your hands, settle in and hopefully have some laughs on us.

 

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  1. The Cloaked Gaijin Member

    Great photo.

    However, is that a Quip toothbrush?

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    • March 25, 2020, at 6:06 AM PDT
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  2. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    Not sure about the prepper hate. Most of us are sitting back laughing about this thing while sitting on months worth of supplies while the rest of the world seems desperate for toilet paper.

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    • March 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM PDT
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  3. Taras Coolidge

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Not sure about the prepper hate. Most of us are sitting back laughing about this thing while sitting on months worth of supplies while the rest of the world seems desperate for toilet paper.

    Remember, this is just Jonah G. airing his prejudices. It’s not like he knows anything about the subject.

    Of course, “months worth of supplies” means that the prepper can isolate himself that long if necessary.

    If he finds he forgot something, he can just take it from the nearest Never Trumper at gunpoint.

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    • March 25, 2020, at 9:09 AM PDT
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  4. RS711 Listener

    Taras (View Comment):
    he can just take it from the nearest Never Trumper at gunpoint.

    I didn’t vote for Trump but in the words of Dr. Dre “Now you wanna run around talking bout guns like I ain’t got none
    What you think I sold ’em all, cause I stay well off”.

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    • March 25, 2020, at 9:45 AM PDT
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  5. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge

    Taras (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Not sure about the prepper hate. Most of us are sitting back laughing about this thing while sitting on months worth of supplies while the rest of the world seems desperate for toilet paper.

    Remember, this is just Jonah G. airing his prejudices. It’s not like he knows anything about the subject.

    Of course, “months worth of supplies” means that the prepper can isolate himself that long if necessary.

    If he finds he forgot something, he can just take it from the nearest Never Trumper at gunpoint.

    I am finding Johan G prejudices quite annoying. He getting to be as bad as most liberals. 
    Barter is the preferred method to get supplies. Force only when required.

    • #5
    • March 25, 2020, at 12:05 PM PDT
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  6. RebeccaCoffey Thatcher

    Ok, you do a live podcast with drinks and I’m in! 

    Great music selection.

    Hang in there everybody and treat each other right. Wishing you all well.

    • #6
    • March 25, 2020, at 12:49 PM PDT
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  7. Blue Yeti Admin

    RebeccaCoffey (View Comment):

    Ok, you do a live podcast with drinks and I’m in!

    Great music selection.

    Hang in there everybody and treat each other right. Wishing you all well.

    Stay tuned. An update on this coming very soon…

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    • March 25, 2020, at 1:21 PM PDT
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  8. RebeccaCoffey Thatcher

    Yay! I’d do jazz hands and a smiley face but I would never wish to offend Jonah.

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    • March 25, 2020, at 1:39 PM PDT
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  9. JuliaBlaschke Coolidge

    I’m having a similar experience to Rob and NextDoor. In our local community FB. Just a few examples: I was called hateful and ignorant because I called it the Wuhan Virus, an excellent Mexican restaurant has closed, not even take out or delivery because someone complained they saw 20-30 people eating there. I wondered if someone had gone there to eat and then complained about all the people there eating. My observation was not well received.

    Our grocery shelves are still pretty bare. We have toilet paper because I was at Lowes 3 weeks ago and they had these enormous packages of rolls for a very good price so I grabbed one. Hubby said “why did you get all that toilet paper!”. Little did he know of my cunning prescience!

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    • March 25, 2020, at 1:49 PM PDT
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  10. JackButler Podcaster

    I am here for the praise of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

    • #10
    • March 25, 2020, at 2:40 PM PDT
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  11. TallCon Coolidge

    OK Podhoretz, at times like this I feel like I’ll never believe you about Odd Couple trivia again. Seriously, he won’t read this. How do I get hold of him? He can’t ever make this mistake again.

    Star Trek II was indeed made on the cheap. How was it made on the cheap? Because they didn’t have to build sets! Paramount didn’t destroy the sets. They didn’t destroy anything! They had the bridge, they had engineering (a seriously expensive set!), they had the transporter room (which was also Kirk’s apartment), they redressed the Klingon bridge to be the torpedo bay, they had props, and they had the costumes. But everybody hated the costumes so they figured out what colors they could dye them so that they could be all of the crew extras and the main cast got the Hero uniforms that you either think are the greatest uniforms in Star Trek or you think they look like Canadian mounties.

    When they finally tore down the Voyager sets in 2001 to build the sets for Enterprise there was sound stage that hadn’t seen daylight since 1978 because the subsequent movie sets, the Star Trek: The Next Generation sets, and the Star Trek: Voyager sets all used parts of those original sets from Star Trek: The Motion Picture. They didn’t sell off all of the props and models until 2006!

    Star Trek: The Motion Picture “made money”. Adjusted for inflation it was the highest grossing Star Trek film until 2009. It made $82 million dollars (4th highest box office that year). It’s just that they rolled the budget for every attempt to bring back Star Trek including an aborted second television show into the budget so it “cost” $30 million to make.

    BTW as wonderful as Kirstie Alley is in Wrath of Khan I’ve since seen some of her scenes as they were filmed. She could barely put two words together! Through the magic of dubbing they saved her performance in post. (She obviously learned fast. She’s been terrific in everything else.)

    Oh, and Star Trek: The Motion Picture had seatbelts.

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    • March 25, 2020, at 3:31 PM PDT
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  12. kedavis Member

    Okay I’d like to point out that Burrow offers one week – 7 day – shipping. However they should make it 10 days at least, since I read that coronavirus can survive on surfaces for 9 days.

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    • March 25, 2020, at 4:29 PM PDT
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  13. Taras Coolidge

    JuliaBlaschke (View Comment):

    I’m having a similar experience to Rob and NextDoor. In our local community FB. Just a few examples: I was called hateful and ignorant because I called it the Wuhan Virus, an excellent Mexican restaurant has closed, not even take out or delivery because someone complained they saw 20-30 people eating there. I wondered if someone had gone there to eat and then complained about all the people there eating. My observation was not well received. … 

    At least one politician has the guts to back you up:

    President Donald Trump emphatically blamed China for the coronavirus pandemic Thursday, and again made a point of using the term “Chinese virus.”

    “The world is paying a very big price for that they did,” Trump said, referring to his claim that Chinese officials did not fully share information sooner about the coronavirus outbreak after it began in China. — https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-outbreak-trump-blames-china-for-virus-again.html

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    • March 25, 2020, at 4:30 PM PDT
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  14. kedavis Member

    TallCon (View Comment):
    BTW as wonderful as Kirstie Alley is in Wrath of Khan I’ve since seen some of her scenes as they were filmed. She could barely put two words together! Through the magic of dubbing they saved her performance in post. (She obviously learned fast. She’s been terrific in everything else.)

    I really liked her too in Summer School, with Mark Harmon. Check it out if you haven’t already.

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    • March 25, 2020, at 4:42 PM PDT
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  15. Bishop Wash Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TallCon (View Comment):
    BTW as wonderful as Kirstie Alley is in Wrath of Khan I’ve since seen some of her scenes as they were filmed. She could barely put two words together! Through the magic of dubbing they saved her performance in post. (She obviously learned fast. She’s been terrific in everything else.)

    I really liked her too in Summer School, with Mark Harmon. Check it out if you haven’t already.

    Agree. I kept hoping DiNozzo would use Summer School as one of the many movies he’d reference on NCIS but he never did. 

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    • March 25, 2020, at 5:39 PM PDT
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  16. TallCon Coolidge

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TallCon (View Comment):
    BTW as wonderful as Kirstie Alley is in Wrath of Khan I’ve since seen some of her scenes as they were filmed. She could barely put two words together! Through the magic of dubbing they saved her performance in post. (She obviously learned fast. She’s been terrific in everything else.)

    I really liked her too in Summer School, with Mark Harmon. Check it out if you haven’t already.

    To this day I still say “Trapped. Like rats.” 

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    • March 25, 2020, at 7:17 PM PDT
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  17. J Ro Member

    TallCon (View Comment):

    OK Podhoretz, at times like this I feel like I’ll never believe you about Odd Couple trivia again. Seriously, he won’t read this. How do I get hold of him? He can’t ever make this mistake again.

    Star Trek II was indeed made on the cheap. How was it made on the cheap? Because they didn’t have to build sets! Paramount didn’t destroy the sets. They didn’t destroy anything! They had the bridge, they had engineering (a seriously expensive set!), they had the transporter room (which was also Kirk’s apartment), … 

    That sounds like reliable Star Trek trivia, although I believe the proper term for Kirk’s living quarters would be “stateroom”.

    Long ago while rummaging through the dump on a USN base I noticed piles of oddly shaped, tubular plastic containers. They were the empty shipping containers for air launched sonobuoys used to locate and track submarines. Sometime later I was watching one of the earlier Star Trek movies and noticed those same plastic containers built into the engineering spaces in Starship Enterprise

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    • March 25, 2020, at 8:50 PM PDT
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  18. kedavis Member

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TallCon (View Comment):
    BTW as wonderful as Kirstie Alley is in Wrath of Khan I’ve since seen some of her scenes as they were filmed. She could barely put two words together! Through the magic of dubbing they saved her performance in post. (She obviously learned fast. She’s been terrific in everything else.)

    I really liked her too in Summer School, with Mark Harmon. Check it out if you haven’t already.

    Agree. I kept hoping DiNozzo would use Summer School as one of the many movies he’d reference on NCIS but he never did.

    I decided long ago if I ever met Mark Harmon, I would say “Hey Mr Shoop!”

    Meanwhile, I don’t know how often it may have happened in other shows, but there was an episode of “Ghost Whisperer” starting Jennifer Love Hewitt, and she and Jay Mohr were looking for clues in an old horror movie called “I Know What You Did Last Summer.” He gave her an odd look…

    (for those who don’t know, JLH was a primary character in “I Know What You Did Last Summer.”)

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    • March 25, 2020, at 9:35 PM PDT
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  19. Bishop Wash Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TallCon (View Comment):
    BTW as wonderful as Kirstie Alley is in Wrath of Khan I’ve since seen some of her scenes as they were filmed. She could barely put two words together! Through the magic of dubbing they saved her performance in post. (She obviously learned fast. She’s been terrific in everything else.)

    I really liked her too in Summer School, with Mark Harmon. Check it out if you haven’t already.

    Agree. I kept hoping DiNozzo would use Summer School as one of the many movies he’d reference on NCIS but he never did.

    I decided long ago if I ever met Mark Harmon, I would say “Hey Mr Shoop!”

    Meanwhile, I don’t know how often it may have happened in other shows, but there was an episode of “Ghost Whisperer” starting Jennifer Love Hewitt, and she and Jay Mohr were looking for clues in an old horror movie called “I Know What You Did Last Summer.” He gave her an odd look…

    (for those who don’t know, JLH was a primary character in “I Know What You Did Last Summer.”)

    I liked it in “Mad About You” when they discussed the Alien movies. Paul Riser’s character said that he liked the first one, but not so much the second one (where he was the villian).

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    • March 25, 2020, at 10:42 PM PDT
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  20. Blue Yeti Admin

    Details on the live GLoP Night Owl show this Saturday night are here. 

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    • March 25, 2020, at 11:09 PM PDT
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  21. kedavis Member

    In general I think self-referential stuff should be avoided, although it’s not so bad in comedies. But I think it was a big mistake for Zefram Cochrane in the “Star Trek: First Contact” movie to say “You’re astronauts, on some kind of star trek!” and for Q to say in the TNG series finale “It’s time to put an end to your trek through the stars.”

    There have been a few episodes of the series “Supernatural” where the “heroes” encounter “groupies” who follow their adventures on social media etc, and even when a TV series and possibly a movie was being made about their lives. I didn’t think that was so bad under the circumstances, but hard-core fans of the show might disagree.

    On the other hand, even though I’m NOT a fan, even before I knew about these, I thought it was quite ridiculous that there were episodes of Xena and Hercules where current-day people were supposedly uncovering ancient scrolls and stuff about how that stuff was all REAL! And coincidentally, the current-day actors who were going to play them in the TV shows, were the same actors who ACTUALLY play them in the TV shows!

    But the biggest violation, at least for me, was an episode of the otherwise-great (albeit… campy?) series UFO, where it seemed the aliens were trying to convince Straker that he WAS really just an executive at a studio that was making a TV show about an agency battling UFOs coming to Earth… I don’t consider stuff like that to be the least bit “deep” or “complex” or “innovative.”

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    • March 25, 2020, at 11:18 PM PDT
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  22. kedavis Member

    I’m also aware of one example, there might be others, where something like that wasn’t really self-referential because it hadn’t happened yet. But that might make it even more enjoyable.

    In an episode of “Married With Children,” Al Bundy (Ed O’Neill) is watching TV. I think he’s also talking with their neighbor Jefferson about something, and Al says “No, I live my life in the present. Oh, look, Dragnet is on!”

    What’s funny about that is that “Married With Children” ended in 1997, and starting in 2003 Ed O’Neill starred as Joe Friday in a “reboot” of Dragnet for 22 episodes over two seasons.

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    • March 25, 2020, at 11:31 PM PDT
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  23. James Lileks Contributor

    TallCon (View Comment):
    Star Trek: The Motion Picture “made money”

    Were the Glopians dissing ST: TMP? I held the fashionable ideas about it until I saw the director’s cut. It’s not perfect but it’s much better, and has an emotional heft the theatrical cut lacked. It’s sorely underrated – but I’m quite glad they went in another direction for ST2. 

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    • March 25, 2020, at 11:47 PM PDT
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  24. kedavis Member

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    TallCon (View Comment):
    Star Trek: The Motion Picture “made money”

    Were the Glopians dissing ST: TMP? I held the fashionable ideas about it until I saw the director’s cut. It’s not perfect but it’s much better, and has an emotional heft the theatrical cut lacked. It’s sorely underrated – but I’m quite glad they went in another direction for ST2.

    Oh what sad times we live in when passing ruffians can say “Ni!” to an old woman….

    Ahem. No, that wasn’t it.

    Oh what sad times we live in when Reddy Kilowatt must wear a mask!

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    • March 26, 2020, at 12:45 AM PDT
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  25. Miffed White Male Member
    Miffed White Male Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TallCon (View Comment):
    BTW as wonderful as Kirstie Alley is in Wrath of Khan I’ve since seen some of her scenes as they were filmed. She could barely put two words together! Through the magic of dubbing they saved her performance in post. (She obviously learned fast. She’s been terrific in everything else.)

    I really liked her too in Summer School, with Mark Harmon. Check it out if you haven’t already.

    She was a better character on Cheers than Diane was.

     

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    • March 26, 2020, at 5:07 AM PDT
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  26. TallCon Coolidge

    J Ro (View Comment):
    That sounds like reliable Star Trek trivia, although I believe the proper term for Kirk’s living quarters would be “stateroom”.

    Well, the set I was referring to was Kirk’s apartment in San Francisco. But you’re right, his stateroom was another set built for TMP and not torn down.

    J Ro (View Comment):
    Long ago while rummaging through the dump on a USN base I noticed piles of oddly shaped, tubular plastic containers. They were the empty shipping containers for air launched sonobuoys used to locate and track submarines. Sometime later I was watching one of the earlier Star Trek movies and noticed those same plastic containers built into the engineering spaces in Starship Enterprise

    If it’s the gizmo I’m thinking of, they used those things a lot in the Next Generation era.

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    I liked it in “Mad About You” when they discussed the Alien movies. Paul Riser’s character said that he liked the first one, but not so much the second one (where he was the villian).

    Mark: “It’s like… Did you ever see the Alien movies?”

    Paul (without missing a beat): “Only the first one.”

    A few years later Jamie walked in on the gang playing a game with a colored mat. Paul looks up: “Twister?”

    kedavis (View Comment):
    In general I think self-referential stuff should be avoided, although it’s not so bad in comedies. But I think it was a big mistake for Zefram Cochrane in the “Star Trek: First Contact” movie to say “You’re astronauts, on some kind of star trek!” and for Q to say in the TNG series finale “It’s time to put an end to your trek through the stars.”

    That was a Rick Berman thing, reportedly.

    James Lileks (View Comment):
    Were the Glopians dissing ST: TMP? I held the fashionable ideas about it until I saw the director’s cut. It’s not perfect but it’s much better, and has an emotional heft the theatrical cut lacked. It’s sorely underrated – but I’m quite glad they went in another direction for ST2. 

    It’s what they do. The good news is that the team that worked on the Director’s Edition with Robert “Andromeda Strain” Wise is working on getting the go ahead from Paramount to do a 4K version. It’s currently only available in SD (because that’s how it was made back in 2001).

     

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    • March 26, 2020, at 8:37 AM PDT
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  27. Jon1979 Lincoln

    My biggest problem with ST:TMP was the similarities to the Season 2 TOS episode “The Changeling”, where the Enterprise discovers an interstellar probe that had been missing for over 250 years, which had collided and merged with a second probe and now was roaming the galaxy sterilizing/exterminating non-perfect life forms, including four billion people. You would think that encounter would have come up in the conversation among the Enterprise crew when they discovered V’ger’s origin, but nada.

    Compare that with Star Trek II, which is an overt call-back to the Season 1 episode ‘Space Seed’. The open-ended conclusion of that story left things open for the movie to take Khan and use him, based on his previous contact with Kirk (the only continuity bug being how Kahn would have known Checkov, who wasn’t seen on the Enterprise until Season 2). The first movie took advantage of the Star Trek phenomenon in the wake of the success of Star Wars, but didn’t understand how much the biggest fans were into continuity and having stories that were within established canon (something that’s killing the current ST series on CBS — All Access, because continuity is ground into dust if it conflicts with a good visual or a stand-alone dramatic scene). The second movie got it, riffing off the already-established characters from ‘Space Seed’ as well as borrowing the style of the end conflict from another Season 1 episode “Balance of Terror”.

    If you’re going to get the fans to buy into your universe, whether it’s the one for the Federation in Star Trek, or for the Republic and the Empire in Star Wars, you have to respect what brought the fans to the franchise in the first place, and not go off and do things that either make the characters look dumb, or which totally cancel out things that previously were part of their universe.

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    • March 26, 2020, at 9:06 AM PDT
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  28. Dr. Strangelove Thatcher
    Dr. Strangelove Joined in the first year of Ricochet Ricochet Charter Member

    The Cloaked Gaijin (View Comment):

    Great photo.

     

    Jonah holding a Pippa mug was a particularly nice touch. 

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    • March 26, 2020, at 9:16 AM PDT
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  29. Bishop Wash Member

    TallCon (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    I liked it in “Mad About You” when they discussed the Alien movies. Paul Riser’s character said that he liked the first one, but not so much the second one (where he was the villian).

    Mark: “It’s like… Did you ever see the Alien movies?”

    Paul (without missing a beat): “Only the first one.”

    A few years later Jamie walked in on the gang playing a game with a colored mat. Paul looks up: “Twister?”

    Thanks for the better memory. 

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    • March 26, 2020, at 10:40 AM PDT
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  30. Jeff Hawkins Coolidge

    Zoom is the app of choice

    a lot of webcamming is lighting. Your laptop or iphone camera is very powerful, the problem is the hi def is looking for a light source to help with focus

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    • March 26, 2020, at 11:42 AM PDT
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