Freedom of Speech Guys

This week, the men of GLoP address an issue that should not be controversial, yet somehow it is: freedom of speech on college campuses and in the culture at large. Howard Dean said on Twitter that hate speech “is not protected by the Constitution” (yes, it is). In a recent New York Times Op-Ed, a vice provost at New York University wrote that “We should thank the student protestors, the activists in Black Lives Matter and other “overly sensitive” souls for keeping watch over the soul of our republic.” Hmm. Also, did late night comedy fuel the rise of Trump? A sad farewell the the great Kate O’Beirne (read Jonah’s tribute here), Rob’s going to Cuba, and yes, the now apparently required corn hole joke (by the way, the now classic corn hole episode of GLoP which John references in the show is here).

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  1. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    That was genuinely the worst segway I have ever heard. I paused the podcast and laughed heartily. I now plan to never delete this podcast from my Ipad so I can access the worst segway ever at my whim.

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  2. CoolieCon Inactive
    CoolieCon
    @CoolieCon

    Guy’s, audio. At times it sounds like Rob is talking through a wool hat pulled over his head. There was obviously a great joke he made in response to Donkey Shows and with my head pressed up to the PC i can’t hear it. Maybe with headphones on.

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  3. BD1 Member
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    @

    “Alinsky to the left of me, Alinsky to the right of me”, stuck in the middle with Evan McMullin.

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  4. Blue Yeti Admin
    Blue Yeti
    @BlueYeti

    CoolieCon (View Comment):
    Guy’s, audio. At times it sounds like Rob is talking through a wool hat pulled over his head. There was obviously a great joke he made in response to Donkey Shows and with my head pressed up to the PC i can’t hear it. Maybe with headphones on.

    Rob has a small issue with staying close to the mic. This has been a long (no pun intended) issue with him. That said, let me see if I can make his track louder. Stand by.

    Update: Give it a listen now. If you have downloaded the show to your mobile device, delete the current file and re-download it to get the updated version.

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  5. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    John Podhoretz was write about how horror-inducing the Snowflakes editorial in the NYTs was. If you are busy and don’t want to read the whole thing I think I can sum it up for you.

    To counter-argument is

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  6. Paul Dougherty Member
    Paul Dougherty
    @PaulDougherty

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    John Podhoretz was write about how horror-inducing the Snowflakes editorial in the NYTs was. If you are busy and don’t want to read the whole thing I think I can sum it up for you.

    To counter-argument is

    Author:

    “Ulrich Baer- Vice Provost for faculty, arts, humanities, and diversity, and professor of comparative Literature at New York University.”

    I can’t really improve on this criticism.

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  7. Merrijane Inactive
    Merrijane
    @Merrijane

    Oh, John. I love you, but you are the anti-Lileks of segues.

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  8. Aaron Miller Inactive
    Aaron Miller
    @AaronMiller

    Ken Levine, not Ken Levine. The latter is probably better known among younger generations.

    The Perez abortion comment is inconsequential. Those anti-abortion and abortion-limiting Democrats clearly don’t prioritize the issue, as evidenced by the endless string of abortion advocates they elect. Barack Obama as Senator had the most extreme record of anyone, voting to deny medical care from babies fully born during botched late-term abortions. But these “pro-life” Democrats voted for him.

    Blue Yeti (View Comment):
    Rob has a small issue with staying close to the mic. This has been a long (no pun intended) issue with him.

    He’s a Ricochet founder and one of its core representatives. He can spring for a headset.

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  9. Arizona Patriot Member
    Arizona Patriot
    @ArizonaPatriot

    Jonah has lost all credibility in my eyes.  Gil Gerard was Buck Rogers, not Flash Gordon. :)

    I’ll confess an even greater level of sci-fi nerdiness.  During the Qatar pronunciation joke, was I the only one who thought Zathras?

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  10. Jeff Peterson Member
    Jeff Peterson
    @PatJefferson

    Only one sentence (unless I missed a second) on O’Reilly’s defenestration? Whatever his de/merits as a commentator (or a person), that’s the biggest story in politics and pop culture since the last GLoP, and potentially very significant if it indicates a) the ability of ideological opponents to force conservatives off the air via social media pressure on advertisers; and b) a generational transition in the Murdoch family portending the de-conservatization of Fox. (Which would be a bad business decision but great for the younger Murdochs’ social profile.) Both have been reported on, and it would have been good to get the GLoPsters’ take, as well as any observations Jonah could have shared on the culture at Fox, the plausibility of the charges against O’Reilly, etc. A missed opportunity, IMHO.

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  11. RoBanJo Listener
    RoBanJo
    @RoBanJo

    Slightly segue-inous, Your podcast is such a delight. And you even make sense. The interplay is delightful. I have been a fan of the Ricochet podcast stream and guilty for non-contributory status. Your new level put me over the edge.

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  12. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    It’s the Mid-Atlantic Dialect:

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  13. LC Member
    LC
    @LidensCheng

    John sounded very pleased with his ridiculous segue.

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  14. mezzrow Member
    mezzrow
    @mezzrow

    BTW, Dantley is a name.  Have you never watched basketball?  Have you not heard of Adrian Dantley?

    Adrian was a legend at Notre Dame and DeMatha, and had himself a good 15 years of NBA service.  If any of you are ever accused of being a “beltway guy” you have a get out of jail card.  Any true DC beltway guy as old as us would remember AD just from the DeMatha connection…

    Yes, worst segue ever.  Ever.  James will probably keep it as your ringtone on his phone, John.

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  15. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    mezzrow (View Comment):
    BTW, Dantley is a name.

    I thought they were saying Gantley. I had a friend in high school by the name of Ganley, so it seemed close.

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  16. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    RoBanJo (View Comment):
    Slightly segue-inous, Your podcast is such a delight. And you even make sense. The interplay is delightful. I have been a fan of the Ricochet podcast stream and guilty for non-contributory status. Your new level put me over the edge.

    Welcome, RoBanJo.

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  17. thelonious Member
    thelonious
    @thelonious

    mezzrow (View Comment):
    BTW, Dantley is a name. Have you never watched basketball? Have you not heard of Adrian Dantley?

    Adrian was a legend at Notre Dame and DeMatha, and had himself a good 15 years of NBA service. If any of you are ever accused of being a “beltway guy” you have a get out of jail card. Any true DC beltway guy as old as us would remember AD just from the DeMatha connection…

    Yes, worst segue ever. Ever. James will probably keep it as your ringtone on his phone, John.

    You’re bringing back many pleasant memories of me watching him at the old Salt Palace when he played for the Jazz.  The man was  6″4 and scored most of his points in the paint with devastating post-up moves.  The key to his game was his large butt.  He was able to create space in the post moving opposing players out of his way with his large butt.  Ahh.. So many great memories of A.Ds large butt.

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  18. Owen Findy Inactive
    Owen Findy
    @OwenFindy

    Jonah claimed you guys had discussed Waze on an earlier podcast.  I listen to every GLoP podcast and I’m with John: I remember nothing of this.

    I think Jonah is remembering an event from a parallel universe.

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  19. Jonah Goldberg Member
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    @

    Owen, I guess it’s possible I was remembering one of our pre-game conversations. These discussions are usually pretty funny and Rob spends most of them screaming “This should be the show!” and “Start recording!”

     

    On the other hand, why tell Pod this? It’s thrown him into a state of panic?

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  20. Jonah Goldberg Member
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    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):
    Jonah has lost all credibility in my eyes. Gil Gerard was Buck Rogers, not Flash Gordon. ?

    I’ll confess an even greater level of sci-fi nerdiness. During the Qatar pronunciation joke, was I the only one who thought Zathras?

    I am mortified and ashamed. As a person who had a huge crush on Erin Grey and thought Hawk was awesome, this is unforgivable. But it really was just a slip of the tongue. But it’s not like I misremembered the name of “Hear No Evil.” http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084057/

    Anyway, my apologies and I hope I can earn back your trust.

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  21. Owen Findy Inactive
    Owen Findy
    @OwenFindy

    Jonah Goldberg (View Comment):
    Owen, I guess it’s possible I was remembering one of our pre-game conversations. These discussions are usually pretty funny and Rob spends most of them screaming “This should be the show!” and “Start recording!”

    On the other hand, why tell Pod this? It’s thrown him into a state of panic?

    I’m with Rob … because I can’t get enough of GLoP.

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  22. James P P Dirr Inactive
    James P P Dirr
    @HibernianFaithful

    Greg Kinnear was in You’ve Got Mail – not Sleepless in Seattle and I do not know why I remember I remember that because I only saw each of these two chick flicks once each

    Thanks for free speech fight!

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  23. Umbra Fractus Inactive
    Umbra Fractus
    @UmbraFractus

    James P P Dirr (View Comment):
    Greg Kinnear was in You’ve Got Mail – not Sleepless in Seattle and I do not know why I remember I remember that because I only saw each of these two chick flicks once each

     

    Sleepless in Seattle was Bill Pullman, which I remember because I thought, “Hey, that’s the guy from Spaceballs!” when I saw it.

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    I think it was Iowahawk who said it best: “I’ll let you ban hate speech as long as I get to define it.”

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  24. FredGoodhue Coolidge
    FredGoodhue
    @FredGoodhue

    Arizona Patriot (View Comment):
    Jonah has lost all credibility in my eyes. Gil Gerard was Buck Rogers, not Flash Gordon. ?

    I’ll confess an even greater level of sci-fi nerdiness. During the Qatar pronunciation joke, was I the only one who thought Zathras?

    The more B5 references the better.

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  25. Rightfromthestart Coolidge
    Rightfromthestart
    @Rightfromthestart

    I’m struck by the fact that everyone is being  beaten bloody by facts , whap, whap, take that, whap.

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  26. Mike Mitchell Inactive
    Mike Mitchell
    @Badgawfer

    I am so happy to hear that I’m not the only one of my generation that thinks Lenny Bruce was a lousy comic. Nothing more than a shock jock. A hero for dropping F bombs.

    PS: Mid-Atlantic dialect, think George Plimpton.

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  27. kylez Member
    kylez
    @kylez

    At the end of the previous Glop they said they were going to start this one with Rob’s story about his Martini Shot on NPR, and John tells Scott to make a note of that.  Jonah says “so betting we don’t” and Rob laughs.

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  28. David Nelson Inactive
    David Nelson
    @DavidNelson
    1. Sorry, Theophilus, Pullman porters were all called George. I assume that was after George Pullman. You never knew the real name of your porter, he was just George.
    2. Rob probably heard of Adrian Dantley, but forgot, and then later thought he had invented the name. Like Helen Keller’s poems.
    3. Beer Nuts cashews are the best cashews. Free shipping and no sales tax unless you are unfortunate enough to live in Illinois. https://www.beernuts.com/cashews
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  29. Nerina Bellinger Inactive
    Nerina Bellinger
    @NerinaBellinger

    So, just another correction.  Bill Pullman was in “While You Were Sleeping” with Sandra Bullock and Tom Hanks was in “Sleepless in Seattle” with Meg Ryan.

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  30. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    I think there is a lot to the late night shows and the rise of Trump. I write about it here.

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